Hello, I'm a Progressive Peace Activist

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Hello, you're a mole or a brain dead hippy. :D

Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-02-10 04:13 PM
Original message Hello, I'm a Progressive Peace Activist


I believe in peace because I believe in people.

I believe there is too much murder and mayhem in this world.

I believe the global wars we are involved in are not a sinister conspiracy but the result of imaginations starved of ideas. When terror leaders are recruiting kids to blow themselves and other innocents up for a few thousand dollars in the most poverty stricken parts of the world it doesn't make sense to drop tens of billions of dollars in bombs on those kids.

I believe much of the violence in society is the result of a lack of education and opportunity.

I believe anger and animosity only set us back and hold us from developing who we are as people. We are after all merely neighbors of one stripe or another.

I believe the killing has to stop, either because we grow out of it or we will simply run out of people to kill.


Pleased to meet you.


I came to this site because I was hoping to find people of similar mindsets.

Sadly, that does not appear to be the case.

I thought this site would promote peace and seek things other than war, violence, hatred and all the poisons of the soul that destroy our bodies.

Yet, I see in thread after thread DU'ers wishing for the violent deaths of people. Granted these are bankers or the execs of BP or the PM of Israel but the level of vitriol is stunning.

Many will say, "Yes, but look what they're doing!"

Yes, but when does the hatred stop?

So you feel threatened. So you believe the threat to be existential. Guess what?

So does the other side. Whatever we may think about them, conservatives feel genuinely threatened by socialism and militant jihadism.

Guess what? I'm a socialist. I think people should look at "socialist" nations like the former USSR and Mao's China and they SHOULD be scared shitless; 100 million murders is no joke. But I also know the men and women of the US military are nothing like those of the USSR's KGB or Mao's Cultural Revolution and the conservatives will be the first ones to tell you our troops would never support oppressive regimes. That is why I believe socialism in America can actually work...because we have a nation full of great, hard-working people.

But just because someone looks at the track record of socialism and naturally go pale at the thought of it coming here doesn't mean I reflexively hate that person. I certainly don't wish them harm or hope they die of a bowel obstruction.

Guess what else? I said I don't support the "war on terror" but I cannot deny the fact that extremists are cutting off heads and blowing up innocent civilians. And I cannot deny that normal people are horrified by that and want to react as best they know how. I just happen to believe that better social support systems, opportunities and dialogue will starve those violent few of their recruits.

Supposedly the tea party is bad because they hate. Supposedly Rush Limbaugh speaks in code to incite his audience.

But some here want to publically lynch the BP execs. Others wish Netanyahu would shoot himself in the head. A terrorist organization that even our president admits murders its own citizens is viewed with sympathy.

Are we saying some forms of hate are better than others? Some forms of hate are more justified?

If so then maybe wars are justified and I have to rethink my place as a peace activist.

But I don't think so.

Let the unrecs commence.

BugBoy mike_c is not amused...

mike_c (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-02-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #5

10. ah, now you've gone from seeking peace to justifying oppression...Edited on Wed Jun-02-10 04:56 PM by mike_c
...under the banner of seeking peace, a cynical tactic with a long and dishonorable history. And to think that I took your OP seriously. Oh well.

I suspect that the Ignore button will be your best resource in this matter.

LOL!!! Good stuff. :D

[Rockntractor]

I saw that thread title and i thought oh crap we have another troll joining and then i noticed it was a dumpster thread.

[Dan D. Doty]

Nuclear Unicorn meeets the Moonbats ( sounds like a good title for a Mexican horror/wrestling movie).

Unicorn is an innocent trying to reason with a bunch raging NPD inficted jerkazoids who haven't seen reason , logic , facts, or even reality for a least a couple decades.

I wouldn't tell Nuclear Unicorn that this is a lost cause, but is more likely that you could chop down a tree with herring then see then logic of your point of view.

Another piece of advice for our dear Unicorn, DU doesn't like anyone going against the Hive; so pick a nice shady spot when they finally plant your tombstone.

[asdf2231]

Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-02-10 04:13 PM
Original message Hello, I'm a Progressive Peace Activist

Hey Moron! I'M a Conservative Peace Activist.



Pleased to meet you.

[Gingersnap]

Nuke Unicorn makes some valid points. While I seriously doubt that Americans could make Socialism work on any politically meaningful level, he or she is correct in pointing out the hypocrisy of cheering the blood thirst on your side while condemning the same behavior in the opposition.

Interesting. Probably not a longterm DU member.

[malloc]

So does the other side. Whatever we may think about them, conservatives feel genuinely threatened by socialism and militant jihadism.

Could this possibly be because communism/socialism/collectivism has actively sought to, and succeeded in the murder of hundreds of millions, whereas free markets and individualism has not? Could this be because Radical Islam would do the exact same if only these insane bastards could get their hands on the tools to do so?

Guess what? I'm a socialist. I think people should look at "socialist" nations like the former USSR and Mao's China and they SHOULD be scared shitless; 100 million murders is no joke. But I also know the men and women of the US military are nothing like those of the USSR's KGB or Mao's Cultural Revolution and the conservatives will be the first ones to tell you our troops would never support oppressive regimes. That is why I believe socialism in America can actually work...because we have a nation full of great, hard-working people.

Besides the fact that socialism will only lead to starvation level poverty there is the fact that all communist regimes and socialist revolutions don't rely on the military of the capitalist society they have toppled to carry out the mass murder. They replace the elements of the overthrown military as necessary with hand-picked fanatics to carry out the dirty work of the regime. Our military would never do such a thing, but if a new branch similar to the SS-Totenkopfverbände were to be introduced it is possible that Jeremiah Wright could be America's Che Guevera.

[Dan D. Doty]

A word of advice for advice for Nclear Unicorn; watch PATTERNS OF FORCE from Star Trek the Original series. Your idea of trying create a Uypoia by using such systems will only one of two ways; dictatorship, or chaos.

You are only seeking ansewers at this time that make you feel good.

Suggest you try reading FROM THE ASHES: AMERICA REBORN by William W. Johnstone.

[PC Guy]

Hey Moron! I'M a Conservative Peace Activist.



Pleased to meet you.

Nice picture and statement.:D

[warpig]

If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.
George Washington