Talks Richard Dawkins: The universe is queerer than we can suppose
About this talk
Biologist Richard Dawkins makes a case for "thinking the improbable" by looking at how the human frame of reference limits our understanding of the universe.
Last edited by The Night Owl; 08-09-2008 at 11:06 AM.
As humans we have no concept of the world that God has made. Each year we learn a little more. A few years ago we didn't even know for sure that water existed on Mars or that other planets existed.
I cannot believe that we are God's only creation.
In an event which scientists refer to as the Big Rip, all the matter in the Universe will eventually be torn apart down to the subatomic level. Of course, just because matter will be torn apart does not mean that nothing will be left of it. There will always be something.The original op points to the symmetry of our solar system and the Universe as a whole.The universe expanding into nothingness as it goes on.
As far as anyone knows, the term "nothing" or "nothingness" is... well... nothing more than an abstract concept. In other words, nothingness, as a state of reality, may not be possible.
There is a difference between the supposedly scientific theory of intelligent design and the philosophical 'argument from design'. Philosophically speaking, the argument design is pretty reasonable and natural. The 'scientific' theory of intelligent design is completely bunk as you say above. The ID proponents have been particularly effective in muddying the waters by confusing the two.
Any ways, I think the purpose of this thread was to lend support to the 'fine tuning' argument... this is how I respond to that:
Conversely, one can look at the universe, and all the apparent billions and billions of stars and galaxies, as see that as far as we can tell (so far), this one little tiny planet is the only one that can support life... given that life really seems only supportable on only on this one single solar system or planet it kinda of, in my view, destroys the 'fine tuning' argument. It looks like the universe is quite hostile to life to me, with only one single exception that we can count. Most definitely not a place fine tuned for fragile organic beings.
In a universe (and planet) where there is a single incomprehensibly infinitesimal tiny surface area (like a single grain of sand on the beach) in which we can actually survive without being killed instantly, do you really think it was designed with 'us in mind'?
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