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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    If you're a conservative, then my theory holds. :p
    I am as Conservative as they come. With a couple of exceptions I am pretty much on the right side of all social and fiscal issues.

    My one big break with the right wing is on the Anchor Baby question. Born on American soil, you are an American. No matter what the imigration status of the parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy View Post
    I am as Conservative as they come. With a couple of exceptions I am pretty much on the right side of all social and fiscal issues.

    My one big break with the right wing is on the Anchor Baby question. Born on American soil, you are an American. No matter what the imigration status of the parents.
    Why? Because it is what you know? What about diplomat babies from say, the U.N.? What about Americans who have babies overseas? I believe babies should be citizens of the country of citizenship of the parents.
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    The far left hates baseball?

    I must not be getting my LEFTIST updates or something because I'm pretty indifferent towards baseball hell I'll watch a game or two if I'm bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    The far left should hate baseball. One reason..... NO SALARY CAP!!!!!! Purely capitalistic in how owners spend their money.
    Which is odd considering that the team that has the most liberals following it is the Yankees. A team that spends an incredible amount of money every season. This season the team salary is over $200 million. $40 million more than the next highest team.

    As for soccer, boring doesn't begin to describe it. Watching 22 guys kicking a ball around for 90+ minutes and having the game end in a 0-0 tie is not my idea of excitement. And I don't think Americans hate soccer. We're more indifferent to it than anything else. And what this has to do with conservative vs liberal is anybody's clue but then again, leave it to the libtards to politicize everything.
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    The far left hates baseball?

    I must not be getting my LEFTIST updates or something because I'm pretty indifferent towards baseball hell I'll watch a game or two if I'm bored.
    Well, you didn't read the article which was written in response to an article on NPR about an imaginary "right-wing" hatred for the World Cup.

    *shakes head*
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    I've been on a baseball list-serv group for about a dozen years. I can unquestionably say that 90% of them are libs. That's probably not true for the entire fan base, but there are quite a few east-coast well-educated libs on that particular board.
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    Team sports in general are left wing based. The us vs. them attitude between owners and players has been going on forever with the fans generally siding with the players nearly unanimously. Look no further than the 1987 NFL strike when the owners used "scab" players and the reaction of the fans, especially in Philadelphia where the unions showed up en masse against the 1 scab game played in Philly. Although I do think that attitude is changing a bit since some players today make in a years salary what it cost to buy an NFL franchise in the 70's. The fans no longer identify themselves with the players anymore. Most fans see players as greedy crybabies and a means to an end. There is no more loyalty. A player no longer does what it takes to play in the same city for their career. Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera may end up being the last players to spend their entire careers with one team. So the scope of sports is changing yet the fan ideology is still slanted to the left.
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    "Why the far left hates baseball?"

    Simple.

    They hate ANYTHING with balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf2231 View Post
    "Why the far left hates baseball?"

    Simple.

    They hate ANYTHING with balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    My observation based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever is that conservatives love games that are about a "star individual" (even if that is a coach on the sidelines), and liberals love games where teamwork completely overshadows stardom.

    Maybe it's a metaphor for capitalism/socialism.
    Sometimes the "star" is the owners -past AND present - many people have serious love of the Rooneys, Curly Lambeau, George Halas , et al ed infantanum. I loved the Steelers because of Kevin Greene and Jerome Bettis. I liked Kurt Warner, no matter WHO he played for. And I'm sure there are people in Gainesville who bought Tim Tebow jerseys though they don't give a rats ass about Denver.

    I'll buy what you're selling, m00.

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