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Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
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- Woodland Park, Colorado, United States
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
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06-22-2010, 02:34 PM
Afghanistan is one of those situations where you really have no good choices. We couldn't allow them to harbor Bin Laden after 9/11, if for no other reason than they would have launched more attacks, and we didn't really have any use for the country after we went in. Ultimately, the only really viable COA comes from Aliens: Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
06-22-2010, 03:20 PM
McChrystal is a warrior General in the vein of men like Patton, MacArthur or Admiral Nimitz; you know, men who actually get shit done. Corporate Generals like Jones sit their happy asses in cushy chairs at the Pentagon while real warriors are out bleeding and dying in some God-forsaken shithole like Afghanistan.
First BP, now McChrystal. Wonder who's ass the Boy Wonder is going to aim to kick next?"Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
06-22-2010, 03:57 PM
I see this as just another step to transform the US Military.
If DADT is removed, then many in the service today will re-up, those who can retire will.
This new thing with Gen. McChrystal is to get the officer corp to either resign, or get in line with admistration.
The jackels who followed Obama to Washington want a military that is loyal to their beliefs and ideology.
They want a military that obeys orders that normally would be unlawful or, goes against their oath of defending the Constituion.CU's Paranormal Expert.
Keep your powder dry, your sword sharp and your wits intact.
06-22-2010, 04:05 PMI feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
06-22-2010, 04:05 PM
Last edited by djones520; 06-22-2010 at 04:08 PM.In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.
In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
06-22-2010, 04:07 PM
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06-22-2010, 04:09 PMThe night before the general is scheduled to visit Sgt. Arroyo’s platoon for the memorial, I arrive at Combat Outpost JFM to speak with the soldiers he had gone on patrol with. JFM is a small encampment, ringed by high blast walls and guard towers. Almost all of the soldiers here have been on repeated combat tours in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and have seen some of the worst fighting of both wars. But they are especially angered by Ingram’s death. His commanders had repeatedly requested permission to tear down the house where Ingram was killed, noting that it was often used as a combat position by the Taliban. But due to McChrystal’s new restrictions to avoid upsetting civilians, the request had been denied. “These were abandoned houses,” fumes Staff Sgt. Kennith Hicks. “Nobody was coming back to live in them.”
One soldier shows me the list of new regulations the platoon was given. “Patrol only in areas that you are reasonably certain that you will not have to defend yourselves with lethal force,” the laminated card reads. For a soldier who has traveled halfway around the world to fight, that’s like telling a cop he should only patrol in areas where he knows he won’t have to make arrests. “Does that make any f–king sense?” Pfc. Jared Pautsch. “We should just drop a f–king bomb on this place. You sit and ask yourself: What are we doing here?”I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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