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    Outcry after French court rules on virginity


    PARIS - The bride said she was a virgin. When her new husband discovered that was a lie, he went to court to annul the marriage—and a French judge agreed.

    The ruling ending the Muslim couple's union has stunned France and raised concerns the country's much-cherished secular values are losing ground to religious traditions from its fast-growing immigrant communities.

    The decision also exposed the silent shame borne by some Muslim women who transgress long-held religious dictates demanding proof of virginity on the wedding night.

    In its ruling, the court concluded the woman had misrepresented herself as a virgin and that, in this particular marriage, virginity was a prerequisite.

    But in treating the case as a breach of contract, the ruling was decried by critics who said it undermined decades of progress in women's rights. Marriage, they said, was reduced to the status of a commercial transaction in which women could be discarded by husbands claiming to have discovered hidden defects in them.

    The court decision "is a real fatwa against the emancipation and liberty of women. We are returning to the past," said Urban Affairs Minister Fadela Amara, the daughter of immigrants from Muslim North Africa, using the Arabic term for a religious decree.

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    The Catholic Church considers it grounds for an annulment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibraryLady View Post
    The Catholic Church considers it grounds for an annulment.
    Yup, this isn't an Islam thing, it's a religion thing. Marriage is in some kind of weird hybrid world between law and culture, no idea where it is.
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    Did they stone her to save her family from disgrace afterwards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vepr View Post
    Did they stone her to save her family from disgrace afterwards?
    Thankfully she is in France! Otherwise, he wouldve just said, I divorce you I divorce you I divorce you, and she might be dead by now.

    I don't think the annulment was a bad thing. It was a breach of contract.
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    When I was younger I went out on a date with a girl. Things got hot and heavy. At the moment of entry I suddenly stopped and went, My God, if I knew you were a virgin, I would have been more gentle.

    To which she replied If I knew that you were in such a fuckin' hurry, i would have already taken off my panty hose.

    Old joke, but still funny.
    Hey careful man! There's a beverage here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibraryLady View Post
    The Catholic Church considers it grounds for an annulment.
    Old testament omly, not the mackerel snappers !

    Deuteronomy 22:13-19 Divorce prohibited if the a husband accuses the wife of not being a virgin: "If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days." If a man accuses his wife of not being a virgin when she married him, and she is able to prove that she was a virgin, then he had to pay her father 100 shekels of silver, and was prohibited from ever divorcing her. The passage continues, by saying that if she cannot prove her virginity, that she was stoned to death. Interestingly enough, this passage allows a husband to arrange the murder of his wife in certain circumstances, and thus obtain a divorce through her death.
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    Where is Gingersnap in this thread?? I read the link and apparantly the groom was looking for bleeding as a sign of virginity? How could he prove that she'd had sex prior to her honeymoon?

    Girls who ride horses, gymnasts, etc, might not bleed.
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    [QUOTE=Bubba Dawg;3359]When I was younger I went out on a date with a girl. Things got hot and heavy. At the moment of entry I suddenly stopped and went, My God, if I knew you were a virgin, I would have been more gentle.

    To which she replied If I knew that you were in such a fuckin' hurry, i would have already taken off my panty hose.

    Old joke, but still funny.[/QUOTE]evil man,evil man,...Benny Hill show !
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    Fraud (Canon 1098) Reasons for Marriage Annulment
    You or your spouse was intentionally deceived about the presence or absence of a quality in the other. The reason for this deception was to obtain consent to marriage.

    This is what is usually used.
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