#1 Vegetarianism: I'm frequently disappointed by the attitude of so many DUers06-25-2010, 05:00 PMelocs (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-25-10 04:50 PM
Vegetarianism: I'm frequently disappointed by the attitude of so many DUers
toward other DUers who make that choice.
The sarcasm, snideness, and snarkiness that so many here have toward vegetarianism, along with a very defensive attitude. I expected more acceptance from Democrats, but maybe I am expecting too much.
There are certainly vegetarians and vegans who have a superior attitude about their dietary choices, but it really does not seem to reach the level of nastiness that so many meat eaters here display toward those who choose to be vegetarian.
I don't read of the meat eaters arguing that a good vegetarian diet is less healthy than your typical American meat eating diet. They can't, but at least I could respect that attitude.
For those who choose vegetarianism for moral and ethical reasons because they don't believe in killing living creatures to provide them with food, or they object to the factory farms where the animals survive horrible lives until they are released by slaughter--I don't read of the meat eaters here refuting that notion, that somehow this mistreatment and torture on animals for food is a good and noble idea so long as it provides them with cheap meat. Yet they will weep profuse crocodile tears over oil covered birds or the deaths of dolphins or whales.
There are those who support a vegetarian lifestyle who argue that raising animals for food is not good for the Earth and it's people, that meat eating wastes the world's resources and keeps billions of people starving, but I don't read the meat eaters here disputing that and putting forth their own argument that meat eating is good and that all of the world's people should eat a meat diet, making the world a better place. I guess what's important is that Americans be allowed to continue to consume twice the amount of meat compared to the rest of the world, and if animals have to suffer and die for that, well, too bad, so sad.
I guess that I have always expected those who are Democrats or Liberals to be more empathetic, understanding, and accepting of those who choose a vegetarian lifestyle for health reasons, for ethical reasons in caring for animals, or for better stewardship of the Earth's resources and helping to feed the world. It's just disappointing to read these attacks on vegetarianism, particularly from DUers. It's the kind of attitude I would more expect from the average freeper climate change denier.
Sad. Just sad.
Coming off as miss high all mighty. But...she gets her ass handed to her:
KonaKane (1000+ posts) Fri Jun-25-10 04:54 PM
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2. I'm disappointed that some will make their diet a political weapon
To take a swipe at other DUers. Our diets are a personal choice. I am a meat eater (omnivore actually, like most humans), and not once started a thread on how great it was to be a meat eater, how we are happier, more intelligent or well adjusted individuals, or how morally superior we are to the rest of you poor slobs.
But I have sure seen that attitude, blatant or veiled, in these pro-vegetarian or vegan threads. My advice is to stop using diet for some kind of podium thumping pedagogy, and looking down on your fellows here who do not eat the same as you. It's divisive, counterproductive to our aims and quite silly.Lets just paint some happy clouds over at the sunshine and lollipop land
06-25-2010, 05:04 PM
That's rich. :p...Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.
06-25-2010, 05:08 PM
I never got the liberal fascination with vegetarianism. Liberalism is almost synoymous with believing in the evolutionary theory, and it's a main point of human's evolution that eating meat led to were we are today. Had we not started eating meat we'd still be tree dwelling monkeys, if not extinct all together which I'd find to be a much more likely scenario (since our tree dwelling ancestors no longer exist).In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.
In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
#4 Go06-26-2010, 01:37 PM
I am going to write her back as soon as I finish this veal and foie gras.
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06-26-2010, 01:49 PM
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- Sonora, Texas
Yesterday I slaughtered and ate a kid goat. I honestly feel that they are so delicious because they are so cute.
06-26-2010, 01:53 PM
Vegetables are what food eats."The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
06-26-2010, 02:23 PM
Militant vegetarians remind me of the militant queers. Just STFU and eat your carrots, I don't need to know the details. Okay?
06-28-2010, 09:02 AM
The poster decries the superior attitude of some vetetarians and vegans, then launches into her own expression of moral superiority.
I have no problem with people who keep a vegetarian diet, it can be really healthy for people with heart disease or other health problems. That still doesn't make someone somehow morally superior to the person like me who still wants to eat meat.
06-28-2010, 03:43 PM
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I know it's impossible to prove a negative, but I have a theory, unprovable, that I've believed true for years. I believe that there are no secret vegetarians. It's impossible for them to keep quiet about it. if you meet a vegetarian, he will tell you.
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