Last edited by Teetop; 08-14-2008 at 03:46 PM. Reason: typo
I'm skeptical about the "conspiracy"
Andrew Sullivan's blog says this.... http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128025.html
More Fun With the Dumbest People on the Internet
David Weigel | August 11, 2008, 8:12am
It's been a while since I suited up and dumpster-dived in the Obama conspiracyverse. In my absence, I reckon that the average IQ there has dipped by 20-25 points. Take this latest revelation from Larry "Whitey Tape" Johnson.
Republican operatives, with help from their own island backers, have unearthed critical information on Obama and are just biding their time until after the convention to drop it on him. Such as? Having a birth certificate that lists you as Barry Soetoro.
Incredible! Ann Dunham met her second husband, Lolo Soetoro in 1966, in Hawaii. "Barry" Obama was, at this time, five years old. The only reasonable explanation is that Dunham and Soetoro built (or purchased) a Genesis Device to clone a new son, using DNA from Barack Obama Sr. that Dunham had pulled off one of his combs.
Seriously. The "evidence" for Johnson's claim is the now-familiar murmurings of "sources" and GOP "operatives" (who appear in these things quicker than agents of H.Y.D.R.A.) and the fact—not reported in too many places, but never disputed—that when Lolo Soetoro became his adoptive father, the young Barack was enrolled in school as "Barack Soetoro."
But was there anything at all odd about that as it concerns a candidate for president? Bill Clinton was William Blythe III until he turned 14 and his mother married Roger Clinton. Gerald Ford was born Leslie Lynch King, Jr., and three years later his mother married Gerald R. Ford and unofficially re-named her son. The younger Ford didn't legally change his name until his was 22 years old. Is Larry Johnson or one of his pseudononymous fellow travellers going to retroactively challenge their legitimacy or veracity? Probably not. There's nothing odd or foreign about Ford's and Clinton's lives—there's no way to stoke racial bigotry and paranoia, which is the indisputable goal of this stuff.
Alas, this was only the second-stupidist event in Birth Certificatestan this week. The stupidest:
Forensics specialist Techdude, who has been chipping away at the Obama Birth Certificate mystery for some time, has confirmed that the name on the original Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) which was used to forge the document presented by Barack Obama as his valid Birth Certificate IS:
Maya Kassandra Soetoro.
Maya Soetoro is Barack Obama's half-sister. She was born in 1970. In Indonesia. Fun fact: Indonesia is not part of Hawaii.
Another fun fact: It's been 88 days since Larry Johnson claimed the existence of the "whitey" tape
If you take the arguments at face value, then it means Obama's birth certificate is Hawaiian and he was named Barry Soetoro. No big deal, right?
Well what about the fact that someone, likely in the Obama camp, forged official documents?
Even assuming that it was a Kossite that forged the documents, unaffiliated with the Obama camp, the campaign published the documents on its website with actual knowledge of their falsity. Barack Obama has requested and received copies of birth certificates in the past, it is required for any number of state filings. He knew that his name was listed as Soetoro on the birth certificate, but let this pass anyway.
Barack Obama either knowingly commissioned the forging of offical documents or failed to correct a known forgery. Additionally, he attested to the validity of the documents and (likely, but no one has raised the issue) presented known forgeries to state and federal officials as valid official state documents.
The left is saying that these allegations of criminal activity are "no big deal." And it is sad that so many on the right are supporting them with ambivalence.
If I should marry my girlfriend, I intend to gain Romanian (and thereby EU) citizenship.The concept of dual nationality means that a person is a citizen of two countries at the same time. Each country has its own citizenship laws based on its own policy.Persons may have dual nationality by automatic operation of different laws rather than by choice. For example, a child born in a foreign country to U.S. citizen parents may be both a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the country of birth.
A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth.U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship.
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