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  1. #1 Tennessee Teen Fights For Right to Wear Confederate Flag 
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    KNOXVILLE, Tenn. Tommy DeFoe wore his Southern pride on his Confederate flag belt buckle Wednesday as he argued in federal court that a school dress code banning such items violated his free speech rights.

    "I am fighting for my heritage and my rights as a Southerner and an American," said the lanky DeFoe, 18, during a break in his trial.

    DeFoe says his great-great uncle served in the Confederate army and "died for the South" in the Civil War.

    But heritage was not the issue for Anderson County school officials who suspended DeFoe more than 40 times before he received his certificate of completion from the county vocational school last fall.

    DeFoe's trial, which began Monday and is being heard by an all-white jury, is the latest in a string of cases across the South since the 1990s challenging dress codes that banned Confederate flag apparel: a prom gown in Kentucky, purses in Texas, T-shirts in Kentucky, South Carolina and Georgia.

    It is unusual for such cases to go to a jury trial, however. Most were settled with a payment to the plaintiffs, said DeFoe attorney Kirk Lyons, who has been involved in many of the cases as chief trial lawyer for the North Carolina-based Southern Legal Resource Center. Others were thrown out by the judge.

    DeFoe's lawyers claim the issue is whether the school system can ban the Confederate flag, a symbol of racism to some, if it causes no substantial disruption, Lyons said.

    But officials in Anderson County, in East Tennessee not far from Knoxville, said they feared racial tension and violence if DeFoe continued to wear his Confederate flag shirts and belt buckle to class.

    All sides agree his clothing failed to draw much notice at Anderson High School, where one of 1,160 students is black, or at the vocational school, where all 200 students are white.
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    I think the boy has a right to wear it if he wants to, BUT, the liberals want to suppress our rights to anything that doesn't benifit themselves. Dress codes need to be kept simple. The way the school ninny systems have them set up, you almost can't wear nothin, cept clinton buttons or vote for obama t-shirts. Now its okay for kids to come to school with Martin Luther King clothes on aint it?
    Heck, it's a part of that boys HERITAGE for crimney sakes. His granddaddy is a hero in his eyes. The left nut libbies gotta go in there and just bust that boys chops right on up and make him feel bad , not only about his heritage for crimney sakes, but standing up for his own rights. Good for him. I say keep on challenging that dad burn dress code till the sissy libbies get it right.
    aughta be like this:
    No baggy pants falling down showing your butt.
    No dresses or skirts above the Knee.
    No spaghetti straps
    Nothing showing "breastesess"
    And nothing conveying anything illegal, or violent.
    easy cheesy simple deesy.
    I believe in America, I don't believe in abortion or pro choice. I believe everyone has a right to come to America LEGALLY, not ILLEGALLY. I believe in my right to bear arms. I believe the borders need to be closed to immigrants coming over here illegally. I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in the CONTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES & THE CONSTITUTION OF TEXAS "yall".
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    If you're in HS you play by the rules of the school or leave. He's 18, he can always drop-out (this is the South...) if he doesnt like it.
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    True, but they make the rules so darn hard to understand or follow. Have you picked up a book of school clothe rules lately? bout near 150 pages long in some cases.
    I believe in America, I don't believe in abortion or pro choice. I believe everyone has a right to come to America LEGALLY, not ILLEGALLY. I believe in my right to bear arms. I believe the borders need to be closed to immigrants coming over here illegally. I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in the CONTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES & THE CONSTITUTION OF TEXAS "yall".
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    school dress codes are not THAT hard to follow. i mean, hes 18, if he cant understand a few pages about acceptable fashion at that age i dont know whats going to happen to this country.
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    Keep willingly tolerating loss of rights for 'reasonable reasons' and see what happens

    Im offended by ghetto culture yet they could wear their X, so why couldnt i wear mine?


    Heres some food for thought-

    "when they took the Jews away, I did nothing because I am not a Jew.

    When they took the homosexuals away, I did nothing because I am not a Homosexual.

    When they took the communists and anarchists away, I did nothing because I am not a Communist or Anarchist

    When they came to get me there was nobody left to help me."


    And for those still confused, its an issue of incrementalization, it doesnt bother you now but when they say you cant wear whatever you'll sing a different tune
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

    "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants, it is the creed of slaves." -William Pitt




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    Quote Originally Posted by megimoo View Post
    KNOXVILLE, Tenn. Tommy DeFoe wore his Southern pride on his Confederate flag belt buckle Wednesday as he argued in federal court that a school dress code banning such items violated his free speech rights.

    "I am fighting for my heritage and my rights as a Southerner and an American," said the lanky DeFoe, 18, during a break in his trial.

    DeFoe says his great-great uncle served in the Confederate army and "died for the South" in the Civil War.

    But heritage was not the issue for Anderson County school officials who suspended DeFoe more than 40 times before he received his certificate of completion from the county vocational school last fall.

    DeFoe's trial, which began Monday and is being heard by an all-white jury, is the latest in a string of cases across the South since the 1990s challenging dress codes that banned Confederate flag apparel: a prom gown in Kentucky, purses in Texas, T-shirts in Kentucky, South Carolina and Georgia.

    It is unusual for such cases to go to a jury trial, however. Most were settled with a payment to the plaintiffs, said DeFoe attorney Kirk Lyons, who has been involved in many of the cases as chief trial lawyer for the North Carolina-based Southern Legal Resource Center. Others were thrown out by the judge.

    DeFoe's lawyers claim the issue is whether the school system can ban the Confederate flag, a symbol of racism to some, if it causes no substantial disruption, Lyons said.

    But officials in Anderson County, in East Tennessee not far from Knoxville, said they feared racial tension and violence if DeFoe continued to wear his Confederate flag shirts and belt buckle to class.

    All sides agree his clothing failed to draw much notice at Anderson High School, where one of 1,160 students is black, or at the vocational school, where all 200 students are white.
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    Holy hell where has this country gone?

    I'm not saying one side of this argument is more correct than the other, I'm just saying where in the hell has the student body gone?

    Where are the mock trials? Where is the student legislation, the god damed self reliance of student council who were supposed to be teaching these kids hard earned life lessons at their age and grade. There shouldn't be oppression 'unconformity laws'! There should be litigation at the student level.

    If the purpose of high school student is to learn life lessons than this would have made a wonderfully educative mock trial with the student council serving as members of the court. The arguments of free speech and self heritage could have been addressed and weighed as the students saw fit, against the need for a peaceful and monolithic learning experience.

    It really saddens me that these so-called educators felt the need to treat some students as heroes and some as criminals instead of warping the whole scenario into a positive learning experience. I think the idea of pitting racial desperation against the idea of communal pride would be a great exercise in thought amoung those who didn't have the need to think along those lines regularly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    Holy hell where has this country gone?

    I'm not saying one side of this argument is more correct than the other, I'm just saying where in the hell has the student body gone?

    Where are the mock trials? Where is the student legislation, the god damed self reliance of student council who were supposed to be teaching these kids hard earned life lessons at their age and grade. There shouldn't be oppression 'unconformity laws'! There should be litigation at the student level.

    If the purpose of high school student is to learn life lessons than this would have made a wonderfully educative mock trial with the student council serving as members of the court. The arguments of free speech and self heritage could have been addressed and weighed as the students saw fit, against the need for a peaceful and monolithic learning experience.

    It really saddens me that these so-called educators felt the need to treat some students as heroes and some as criminals instead of warping the whole scenario into a positive learning experience. I think the idea of pitting racial desperation against the idea of communal pride would be a great exercise in thought amoung those who didn't have the need to think along those lines regularly.
    They'll be banning lots of our apparel because of political correctness if a few on this message board have their way. Wait till they start forcing blinky to use a belt and keep his underwear under wraps. He'll be fit to be tied.

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    I do think that the schools have an obligation to limit student's right to free speech. Some may not agree, but I think that schools should require students to dress appropriately for school.

    This is so far ahead of the line of inappropriate that it is laughable. Schools should regulate the type of speech - nothing patently offensive ("F*** [fill in the blank]"), and nothing threatening ("Bring your grand dragon to school day"), but that should be the extent of school regulation of what kids can wear.

    It sounds like the only people upset over his stars & bars buckle were the effete teachers, and they shouldn't invent outrage if the student body isn't adversely affected.
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    As one post here vividly demonstrates, literacy skills in the south are of far more critical concern than dress codes.
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