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    Of course, more Government control and monitoring of our lives is necessary, at least to Fed thugs,things like that GPS monitor would make dictators like Hitler and Stalin wet their pants with delight!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    Very good point.

    Weed would end up being a retail prescription drug paid for by the taxpayers and given to those that don't work.
    I don't have a problem with prescriptions for drugs that are now illegal, if there is a legitimate medical use.. Cannabids, for example, are effective for appetite stimulation (for chemotherapy patients) and reduction of pressure for glaucoma patients, but they're no more subject to abuse than the codeine in cough syrup, so doctors ought to be able to prescribe it for those conditions. Also, if it could free up research into anti-cannabids, which are natural appetite suppressants, then there's a serious revenue stream to be realized. But that's not the same as saying, "take whatever drugs you want, turn your life upside down, crash your car, lose your job, leave your family homeless, and the taxpayer will pick up the tab."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    And, because legalization creates problems which most people don't want to deal with, on either side of the issue. For example, if it's legal to get high on any substance, whose job is it to deal with the fallout from those people who inevitably crash and burn? Do they get a taxpayer-funded rehab when they decide that they want to quit and can't? Do they get medical insurance that covers the side effects of their "hobby" (HIV, for one obvious example, from sharing needles, or the longterm effects of cocaine use on nasal cavities and cardio-vascular diseases, or even the weight gain from the munchies)? Will the legalization proponents object to over-indulgers losing their licenses to drive when they get behind the wheel of a car stoned, or when an employer decides that off-site habits can effect on-site performance? Does an airline, for example, have a right to impose drug restrictions on pilots? A construction company on it's heavy equipment operators? How about a hospital's medical personnel, especially surgical staff?

    If we are going to exercise the right, people have to take responsibility. If they can't then the stuff stays illegal.
    We seem to do okay with drinking. I don't know why weed is any different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    I don't have a problem with prescriptions for drugs that are now illegal, if there is a legitimate medical use.. Cannabids, for example, are effective for appetite stimulation (for chemotherapy patients) and reduction of pressure for glaucoma patients, but they're no more subject to abuse than the codeine in cough syrup, so doctors ought to be able to prescribe it for those conditions. Also, if it could free up research into anti-cannabids, which are natural appetite suppressants, then there's a serious revenue stream to be realized. But that's not the same as saying, "take whatever drugs you want, turn your life upside down, crash your car, lose your job, leave your family homeless, and the taxpayer will pick up the tab."
    They don't want the Rx Cannabids as they don't get you high. They want to smoke weed & have someone else pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    They don't want the Rx Cannabids as they don't get you high. They want to smoke weed & have someone else pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m00 View Post
    We seem to do okay with drinking. I don't know why weed is any different.
    Except for when liberals get into the act. By classifying alcoholism as a disease, they avoid dealing with personal responsibility, with the result that things that ought to get you in hack are often treated as symptoms of illness. Think of all of the drunk drivers who have avoided jail by going to rehab, for example, or users of illegal drugs who have done the same thing when caught. There are legitimate psychological and medical aspects of addiction, but the crimes that addicts commit while under the influence are still crimes, and need to be treated as such. Liberals won't let us enforce laws that prevent people from causing harm to each other, either through malice or reckless disregard for safety. They treat perps as victims and victims as incidental, especially if the perps are specially protected constituencies and the victims aren't. Prime example: how many times had Teddy Kennedy driven drunk after Chappaquiddick? Or his son, for that matter? How much jail time has either had?
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    They don't want the Rx Cannabids as they don't get you high. They want to smoke weed & have someone else pay for it.
    Exactly. Again, I don't care if somebody lights up, but if they get behind the wheel of a car, or the stick on a plane, then I have an issue with it. The military will continue to maintain our prohibition, because we play with too many dangerous things to allow someone to come into work with a residual buzz, and the longterm behavioral effects are disruptive to good order and discipline. Of course, we are already being told that allowing openly gay Soldiers to serve is not going to impact us (even though it was an openly gay Soldier who leaked 150,000 documents to Wikileaks after being dumped by his drag queen boyfriend), so I guess that allowing those openly gay troops to indulge in their recreational drugs of choice will soon be another lifestyle change that we will have to live with.
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