Results 1 to 9 of 9
  1. #1 Meltdown of the climate 'consensus' 
    Power CUer FlaGator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Swamps of N. Florida
    Posts
    22,432
    More bad news for the AGW bunch...

    For two decades, the IPCC has spearheaded efforts to convince the world's governments that man-made carbon emissions pose a threat to the global temperature equilibrium -- and to civilization itself. IPCC reports, collated from the work of hundreds of climate scientists and bureaucrats, are widely cited as evidence for the urgent need for drastic action to "save the planet."

    But the prestigious InterAcademy Council, an independent association of "the best scientists and engineers worldwide" (as the group's own Web site puts it) formed in 2000 to give "high-quality advice to international bodies," has finished a thorough review of IPCC practices -- and found them badly wanting.

    For example, the IPCC's much-vaunted Fourth Assessment Report claimed in 2007 that Himalayan glaciers were rapidly melting, and would possibly be gone by the year 2035. The claim was actually false -- yet the IPCC cited it as proof of man-made global warming.

    Then there's the IPCC's earlier prediction in 2007 -- which it claimed to have "high confidence" in -- that global warming could lead to a 50 percent reduction in the rain-fed agricultural capacity of Africa.

    Such a dramatic decrease in food production in an already poor continent would be a terrifying prospect, and undoubtedly lead to the starvation of millions. But the InterAcademy Council investigation found that this IPCC claim was also based on weak evidence.

    Overall, the IAC slammed the IPCC for reporting "high confidence in some statements for which there is little evidence. Furthermore, by making vague statements that were difficult to refute, authors were able to attach 'high confidence' to the statements." The critics note "many such statements that are not supported sufficiently in the literature, not put into perspective or not expressed clearly.

    Some IPCC practices can only be called shoddy. As The Wall Street Journal reported, "Some scientists invited by the IPCC to review the 2007 report before it was published questioned the Himalayan claim. But those challenges 'were not adequately considered,' the InterAcademy Council's investigation said, and the projection was included in the final report."
    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion...#ixzz0yOOGqzF6

    I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
    C. S. Lewis
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2  
    Senior Member warpig's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Ft. Worth, Texas
    Posts
    1,445
    Saw this today too, good article. It may get where you cannot trust any scientist.
    "What this country needs are more unemployed politicians."
    -Edward Langley

    "Liberals are the type of people who go on safari and wonder why they can't get out and pet the lions..."- warpig
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3  
    Power CUer FlaGator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Swamps of N. Florida
    Posts
    22,432
    Quote Originally Posted by warpig View Post
    Saw this today too, good article. It may get where you cannot trust any scientist.
    I had always assumed that AGW was basically a UN power grab using (abusing) the trust people in the modern and post-modern eras place in scientists. Now it seems that scientists are just as susceptible to 'the ends justifies the means' mentality as the political elite they support.

    I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
    C. S. Lewis
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4  
    PORCUS MAXIMUS Rockntractor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    42,860
    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    I had always assumed that AGW was basically a UN power grab using (abusing) the trust people in the modern and post-modern eras place in scientists. Now it seems that scientists are just as susceptible to 'the ends justifies the means' mentality as the political elite they support.
    You can expect this anywhere humans are involved.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5  
    Power CUer FlaGator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Swamps of N. Florida
    Posts
    22,432
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    You can expect this anywhere humans are involved.
    Yes, but the nature of scientific endeavor is suppose to put scientists above this mentality otherwise the scientific method has no meaning other than as a prop to lend credibility to that which may be incredulous.

    I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
    C. S. Lewis
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6  
    CU's Tallest Midget! PoliCon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Pittsburgh PA
    Posts
    25,328
    The mystics of a religion are always above criticism by adherents of that faith.
    Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7  
    Power CUer FlaGator's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Swamps of N. Florida
    Posts
    22,432
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    The mystics of a religion are always above criticism by adherents of that faith.
    This is true.

    I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
    C. S. Lewis
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Brandon, FL
    Posts
    315
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    You can expect this anywhere humans are involved.
    Or more importantly GRANT MONEY!
    Onward Thru the Fog
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9  
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    2,838
    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    I had always assumed that AGW was basically a UN power grab using (abusing) the trust people in the modern and post-modern eras place in scientists. Now it seems that scientists are just as susceptible to 'the ends justifies the means' mentality as the political elite they support.
    Well, of course. If there is money in demonstrating a specific scientific outcome, scientists will find ways to demonstrate it.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •