How would the "gay gene" affect gay marriage?

[Rebel Yell]

Let's say one day in the near future the "gay gene" is found. Shortly thereafter, a "cure" is found. Of course. not everybody will accept this cure. Would all you bleeding heart, rainbow shitting liberals then stop defending gay marriage? Because obviously, it would then be a choice.

[MrsSmith]

Remember FruityNuts? If there were a gay gene, it would have to be a recessive, not a dominant. He swore he had 3 brothers, all gay except one. For 75% of one couple's children to be gay due to a genetic reason, both parents would have to be gay, also. Yet there Mom and Dad were... still happily married. There is no gay gene.

[Gingersnap]

I don't for a minute believe there is any such thing as a "gay" gene. I believe people are born with any number of natural inclinations that need to be refined, suppressed, redirected, or encouraged.

But if such a thing did happen, I believe that the vast majority of women (who are by and large pro-choice) would elect to abort and try again. Consciously reproductive heterosexuals usually envision a continuous kinship line based on biology. This is what they would prefer and they are the overwhelming majority of reproductive orientations.

Those few gays and lesbians who would seek out surrogates or whatever and choose to carry a "gay" child would do so in isolation. Much like the two lesbians who were also deaf and deliberately sought a deaf sperm donor to create two deaf children.

[FeebMaster]

What does it being a choice have to do with anything?

The government should get out of the marriage business all together. Yet another small government solution conservatives have no interest in.

[The Night Owl]

Remember FruityNuts? If there were a gay gene, it would have to be a recessive, not a dominant. He swore he had 3 brothers, all gay except one. For 75% of one couple's children to be gay due to a genetic reason, both parents would have to be gay, also. Yet there Mom and Dad were... still happily married. There is no gay gene.

Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Try science...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15689627

Excess of counterclockwise scalp hair-whorl rotation in homosexual men.Klar AJ.

While most men prefer women as their sexual partners, some are bisexual and others are homosexuals. It has been debated for a long time whether a person's sexual preference is innate, learned, or due to a combination of both causes. It was recently discovered that the human right-versus-left-hand use preference and the direction of scalp hair-whorl rotation develop from a common genetic mechanism. Such a mechanism controls functional specialization of brain hemispheres. Whether the same mechanism specifying mental makeup influences sexual preference was determined here by comparing hair-whorl rotation in groups enriched with homosexual men with that in males at large. Only a minority of 8.2% (n = 207) unselected 'control' group of males had counterclockwise rotation. In contrast, all three samples enriched with homosexual men exhibited highly significant (P < 0.0001), 3.6-fold excess (29.8%, n = 272) counterclockwise rotation. These results suggest that sexual preference may be influenced in a significant proportion of homosexual men by a biological/genetic factor that also controls direction of hair-whorl rotation.

PMID: 15689627 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

[Gingersnap]

Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Try science...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15689627

Excess of counterclockwise scalp hair-whorl rotation in homosexual men.Klar AJ.

While most men prefer women as their sexual partners, some are bisexual and others are homosexuals. It has been debated for a long time whether a person's sexual preference is innate, learned, or due to a combination of both causes. It was recently discovered that the human right-versus-left-hand use preference and the direction of scalp hair-whorl rotation develop from a common genetic mechanism. Such a mechanism controls functional specialization of brain hemispheres. Whether the same mechanism specifying mental makeup influences sexual preference was determined here by comparing hair-whorl rotation in groups enriched with homosexual men with that in males at large. Only a minority of 8.2% (n = 207) unselected 'control' group of males had counterclockwise rotation. In contrast, all three samples enriched with homosexual men exhibited highly significant (P < 0.0001), 3.6-fold excess (29.8%, n = 272) counterclockwise rotation. These results suggest that sexual preference may be influenced in a significant proportion of homosexual men by a biological/genetic factor that also controls direction of hair-whorl rotation.

PMID: 15689627 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

I know of this study. It's interesting.

If we discovered that drama queen behavior or compulsive lying was tied to genetic indicators that predicted a tendancy toward the behaviors, would we support the behaviors because they were vaguely genetic?

[The Night Owl]

I know of this study. It's interesting.

If we discovered that drama queen behavior or compulsive lying was tied to genetic indicators that predicted a tendancy toward the behaviors, would we support the behaviors because they were vaguely genetic?

I don't know. Why don't we just deal with what evidence we have rather than imagining what we would do with evidence we don't have?

[Gingersnap]

I don't know. Why don't we just deal with what evidence we have rather than imagining what we would do with evidence we don't have?

We are building evidence for these behaviors in genetic terms. Essentially we are back to square one - people (most people) are genetically predisposed to eat like pigs, sleep around, lie, cheat and steal or lash out in a physically aggressive manner. We use the concepts of culture and society to suppress these behaviors because they lead to highly negative social outcomes. What's the diff?

[MrsSmith]

I know of this study. It's interesting.

If we discovered that drama queen behavior or compulsive lying was tied to genetic indicators that predicted a tendancy toward the behaviors, would we support the behaviors because they were vaguely genetic?

Alcoholism is likely to be caused by genetics, as is smoking...both demonstrably run in families far more than sexual orientation, and affect a much larger percentage of the population. They may even be caused by dominant genes instead of the necessarily recessive one that science would like to blame for sexual behavior. :D

[MrsSmith]

Anecdotal evidence proves nothing. Try science...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15689627

Excess of counterclockwise scalp hair-whorl rotation in homosexual men.Klar AJ.

While most men prefer women as their sexual partners, some are bisexual and others are homosexuals. It has been debated for a long time whether a person's sexual preference is innate, learned, or due to a combination of both causes. It was recently discovered that the human right-versus-left-hand use preference and the direction of scalp hair-whorl rotation develop from a common genetic mechanism. Such a mechanism controls functional specialization of brain hemispheres. Whether the same mechanism specifying mental makeup influences sexual preference was determined here by comparing hair-whorl rotation in groups enriched with homosexual men with that in males at large. Only a minority of 8.2% (n = 207) unselected 'control' group of males had counterclockwise rotation. In contrast, all three samples enriched with homosexual men exhibited highly significant (P < 0.0001), 3.6-fold excess (29.8%, n = 272) counterclockwise rotation. These results suggest that sexual preference may be influenced in a significant proportion of homosexual men by a biological/genetic factor that also controls direction of hair-whorl rotation.

PMID: 15689627 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Maybe adult homosexuals prefer young males with hair-whorls rotating correctly and therefore indoctrinate more of them into the lifestyle.