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  1. #1 Chanting “USA” at a football game is now offensive to Muslims 
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    Liberals are the most sensitive people on the face of the planet. So we must – absolutely must – do everything we can to assure that these delicate lovers of peace are not offended by any of our words or actions.

    The Daily Illini carried this editorial by a pointy-headed academic and we break our normal rules by carrying it in full in hopes that you can learn the error of your jingoistic ways:

    The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.

    The vast majority of 9/11 observances in this country cannot be seen as politically neutral events. Implicit in their nature are the notions that lives lost at the World Trade Center are more valuable than lives lost in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere; that the motives of the 9/11 attackers had nothing to do with genuine grievances in the Islamic world regarding American imperialism; and that the U.S. has been justified in the subsequent killing of hundreds of thousands in so-called retaliation.

    The observance at Saturday’s football game was no different. A moment of silence was followed by a military airplane flyover; in between, Block-I students chanted “USA, USA.” This was neither patriotism nor remembrance in any justifiable sense, but politicization, militarism, propaganda and bellicosity. The University is a public institution that encompasses the political views of all, not just the most (falsely) “patriotic.” Athletic planners should cease such exploitation for political purposes. They might at least consider how most Muslim students, American or otherwise, would respond to this nativist display; or better, Muslims and others that live their lives under the threat of our planes, drones and soldiers.

    The overwhelmingly white, privileged, Block-I students should be ashamed of their obnoxious, fake-macho, chicken-hawk chant, while poverty-drafted members of their cohort fight and die in illegal and immoral wars for the control of oil. University administrators need to eliminate from all events such “patriotic” observances, which in this country cannot be separated from implicit justifications for state-sponsored killing.

    David Green,

    University Academic Professional
    Yes, indeed, David Green is a University Academic Professional. With capital letters. He is also a Major League Ass. With even larger capital letters.

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    Well that added a little jing to my spring...:D
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    USA USA USA

    let's move to OUR moon (it's got our flag don't it) and nuke the rest of this god awful planet full of foreigners

    USA! USA! USA!


    *spills beer all over dale earnhart shirt*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    USA USA USA

    let's move to OUR moon (it's got our flag don't it) and nuke the rest of this god awful planet full of foreigners

    USA! USA! USA!


    *spills beer all over dale earnhart shirt*
    Nuking Iran sounds like a good idea.

    It's earnhardt dumb ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    USA USA USA

    let's move to OUR moon (it's got our flag don't it) and nuke the rest of this god awful planet full of foreigners

    USA! USA! USA!

    *spills beer all over dale earnhart shirt*
    Do you have any idea how massive a tool you are? Any?

    I'll stop chanting USA when muzzies stop chanting "allah akbar, death to the infidels, behead americans and the holocaust never happened" all while burning the flag. Until then, stay the fuck off my moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    USA USA USA

    let's move to OUR moon (it's got our flag don't it) and nuke the rest of this god awful planet full of foreigners

    USA! USA! USA!


    *spills beer all over dale earnhardt shirt*
    You still don't know who we are... sad, sad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    USA USA USA

    let's move to OUR moon (it's got our flag don't it) and nuke the rest of this god awful planet full of foreigners

    USA! USA! USA!


    *spills beer all over dale earnhart shirt*


    Joking aside what would have you felt if you were in that crowd?
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    I'm shocked--SHOCKED, I tell you!--that a university professor hates America.
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    Really nice rebuttal was posted yesterday by a student:

    Stadium is perfect place for veterans’ recognition

    David Green says Block-I students should be ashamed of their militaristic display and that athletic planners shouldn’t exploit football games for political purposes. I think Green needs to return to reality.

    Is he aware that the Morrill Act of 1862 granted federal land for public universities like Illinois to teach agricultural and mechanical arts “including military tactic”? Green was likely aware that he was in Memorial Stadium (though that may be giving him too much credit). But did he know that the stadium is so named because it memorializes the Illinois veterans who gave their lives in World War I and II, or that the moniker “Fighting Illini” is a reference to those Illinois veterans of World War I?

    What Green seems to forget, what most veterans — and I’d like to think those Block-I students — know, is that everyone in the stadium that day was “privileged” because of the sacrifices of men and women who paid the ultimate price for love of their country. Green should be ashamed that he painted such patriots as “poverty-drafted,” as if they fought not by choice, but from lack of economic opportunities. Those patriots died because they loved their country, and so we can proudly chant, “USA, USA!” All the more appropriate in a stadium that recognizes their sacrifice.

    As John Stuart Mill wrote in 1862, “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.

    The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” If Green’s idea of patriotism means nothing is worth fighting for, he probably shouldn’t return to Memorial Stadium. After all, it simply enshrines a history of “state-sponsored killing.” In fact, if I were David Green, I’d stay as far away from Block-I as I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jendf View Post
    Really nice rebuttal was posted yesterday by a student:
    Nice find Jen...:D
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