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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    lol i like some of the comments on there.

    no where on the piece does it say that man is jesus, it's just some italian looking dude with long hair. is that what jesus looked like?

    lol
    It is the generally understood depiction of Jesus in the US and throughout Europe. It may not even look like the real thing, but most people in the US and Europe would know what they were looking at. It's called cultural literacy. You're not stupid and I'm not stupid. Please don't play that way because it makes me want to shove a cactus up your ass .

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    Context doesn't matter to this liberal it seems/ as long as it satisfies his godless dreams/ like monkeys throwing sh!t as castles in air/ as long as he throws/that is the extent of his care.
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    It is the generally understood depiction of Jesus in the US and throughout Europe. It may not even look like the real thing, but most people in the US and Europe would know what they were looking at. It's called cultural literacy. You're not stupid and I'm not stupid. Please don't play that way because it makes me want to shove a cactus up your ass .

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    Aside from the cactus part, this is correct. The image falls within the known iconic parameters for a depiction of Christ and the context makes the image plain.

    CueSi is correct: don't play stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Aside from the cactus part, this is correct. The image falls within the known iconic parameters for a depiction of Christ and the context makes the image plain.

    CueSi is correct: don't play stupid.
    He plays stupid? Thought it wasnt an act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    lol i like some of the comments on there.

    no where on the piece does it say that man is jesus, it's just some italian looking dude with long hair. is that what jesus looked like?

    lol
    The artist evidently thought so, since he was "making a point about Catholic priests."
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    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I have seen them many times. I even posted on another political board the dot-to-dot on Draw Mohammed Day.
    That's a website. The MSM avoided reprinting the cartoons with all of the moral courage that we've come to expect from them. The NY Times even went so far as to run a pic of Chris Ofili's portrait of Mary festooned with porn and elephant dung to illustrate the article, establishing that they were perfectly willing to publish controversial religious imagery, as long as it didn't entail getting their heads lopped off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Kind of hard not to mention it when they report what she said. So unless she attacked a velvet Elvis, her "Lord" would be the diety being represented in a way she does not like.

    As far as the second bit, you are seeing a different media than I. I am well aware of the religion of any terrorist. There are even the obligatory interviews of Muslims to get their required condemnation of the latest douchebag. I wonder if Christians will be interviewed to get a required condemnation (that did happen when the terrorist offed the abortion doctor in his church).
    It would be nice if they did, and some might, but many will simply run the story as a lesson on Christian intolerance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Probably but that will be reaching if they do. She didn't threaten death or force anyone into hiding.
    So? Our media loves to make moral equivalence lessons. That way, they can claim that Christians are just as intolerant and violent as Muslims. I'd be shocked if they didn't make the reach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Yea .... I guess you and I are on the same wavelength here.
    Had to happen sooner or later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    You are raving again.
    Really? So, you deny that explicit Islamic doctrine not only encourages pedophilia, but considers those who marry children to be following the example of the prophet? That what is a scandal and aberation in Christianity is a standard and ideal in Islam? Here is my proof, first, from the Hadiths:
    Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
    'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
    Narrated 'Aisha:
    that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
    Narrated 'Ursa:
    The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
    Now, that's just scripture, and as you and others here point out, there are scriptures in the Christian and Jewish bibles that also entail antiquated commandments. So, what is the current practice? Again, the proof, first the modern scholars of Islam on the subject of child brides are occasionally asked to weigh in on the subject. These are not ancient texts, but modern advice. Here is the thought of present-day islamic scholars on marriage with young virgins:

    From:
    Ask the Imam
    http://islam.tc/ask-imam/index.php
    Islamic Q & A Online
    with Mufti Ebrahim Desai
    Camperdown, South Africa

    Question 6737 from Germany - Jan 10 2002
    http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=6737

    [question]
    i am 45 and married to already 15 years now after the sexual desire of my woman has nearly gone i am looking to marry again. And i would like to marry a woman who is 12 years old, her father and she has also agreed, my first wife told me that it could make problems if it will be a big different in age, and also some of my children are older than my second wife. What is your advise ? And is it allowed for me to have already sexual intercourse with these woman after we are married or to i have to wait till she reach at special age ?

    [answer]
    According to the Shari’ah, if a girl is a minor (did not attain puberty), she may be given in marriage by her father. When she attains puberty, she has the right to maintain the marriage or discontinue the marriage. There is no age limit to be intimate with one’s wife even if she is a minor.
    It is important for you, in your situation, to consider the age difference reservation expressed by your wife.
    and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best
    Mufti Ebrahim Desai

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    From:
    Q & A site of the Muslim Students Organization of the University of Houston:
    http://www.uh.edu/campus/msa/article...riage.html#age
    (scroll down to:)
    Question:
    Is it allowed for a father to force his daughter to marry a specific man that she does not want to marry?

    Answer:
    ...... If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exeption is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith. ....
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    From:
    Marriage at an early age
    http://www.islamicvoice.com/august.98/marriage.htm#EAR
    Question:
    I have a nine year-old girl who is married to a person at the age of 20.....

    Answer:
    ..... Scholars have discussed at length the marriage of a young girl who has not attained puberty and whether her father may marry her away without her permission. If such a marriage takes place it is valid. However, it is perhaps best if the marriage is not allowed to be consummated until the girl attains puberty .....
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    From:
    Reliance of the Traveller - Islamic Sacred Law according to Shafi'i School:
    BOOK M: MARRIAGE
    http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/B...ok_m.htm#m3.13
    (unfortunately this link isn't freely viewable anymore...)
    m3.13 Guardians are of two types, those who may compel their female charges to marry someone, and those who may not.

    ..... The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match (def: m4) without her consent .........

    ...... Those who may not compel her are not entitled to marry her to someone unless she accepts and gives her permission ........

    ........ Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission if she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a4b_1249043706
    What you are seeing is a mass wedding in Gaza, in which 450 couples were wed. Note the ages of some of the brides.

    Still claim that I'm raving?
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    You need more fantasy liberals in your head.
    The real ones are bad enough.
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    Aside from the cactus part, this is correct. The image falls within the known iconic parameters for a depiction of Christ and the context makes the image plain.

    CueSi is correct: don't play stupid.
    He's not playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Aside from the cactus part, this is correct. The image falls within the known iconic parameters for a depiction of Christ and the context makes the image plain.

    CueSi is correct: don't play stupid.
    It comes from the belief that stupid should hurt. :D

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    Context doesn't matter to this liberal it seems/ as long as it satisfies his godless dreams/ like monkeys throwing sh!t as castles in air/ as long as he throws/that is the extent of his care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CueSi View Post
    It comes from the belief that stupid should hurt. :D

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    Wei claims to be a teacher. In academia, stupid equals tenure.
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