Calif top court: Docs can't withhold care to gays

[Cold Warrior]

Originally Posted by JB
I'll play

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Who the fuck are you?

Be careful there kid. JB is a man of taste and sophistication (like some others I might know). He truly understands the value of professional wrestling, EPL, and cycling. The man's got class. :D

[wilbur]

or the godless who force others to perform acts against their conscience?

So should we then let Muslim nurses refuse to uncover or wash their arms since it offends their religious modesty (while working in a hospital)? Would that be "Godless"?

Your statement is quite broad... coercing someone to act against their conscience is something that is done regularly by religious and non-religious alike. However, what it has to do with "Godlessness" I do not know.

[Space Gravy]

I'm having a hard time mustering up sympathy for the doctors. I also don't feel bad for the pharmacists in the news once a year or so who will refuse to administer birth control or a morning after pill. They know, full well, that's it's a reasonable possibility by choosing this vocation it might put them at odds, or in contact with those that don't share their faith.

[Zeus]

I'm having a hard time mustering up sympathy for the doctors. I also don't feel bad for the pharmacists in the news once a year or so who will refuse to administer birth control or a morning after pill. They know, full well, that's it's a reasonable possibility by choosing this vocation it might put them at odds, or in contact with those that don't share their faith.

What about the concept of referrals ? that a big no no ?

There are certain floor plans I refuse to build because in my opinion they are crap. Should I be forced to build them anyway instead of referring the client to a different contractor If I can't convince them the FP is crap ?

[M21]

I'm having a hard time mustering up sympathy for the doctors. I also don't feel bad for the pharmacists in the news once a year or so who will refuse to administer birth control or a morning after pill. They know, full well, that's it's a reasonable possibility by choosing this vocation it might put them at odds, or in contact with those that don't share their faith.

I tend consider the Doc who for example has been practicing for 40 years and because of a recent change in the law is required to perform a procedure he is fundamentally opposed to. He or She is now required to perform the procedure for all or no one with no Grandfathering.

Ultimately I guess they could stop practicing any medicine that might cause them to have to compromise and I suppose some will.

[Goldwater]

I tend consider the Doc who for example has been practicing for 40 years and because of a recent change in the law is required to perform a procedure he is fundamentally opposed to. He or She is now required to perform the procedure for all or no one with no Grandfathering.

You know this is different from abortion...

[Gingersnap]

You know this is different from abortion...

Because it's so similar to plastic surgery?

[Goldwater]

Because it's so similar to plastic surgery?

Well, thats a procedure which is decided on by the patient themself.

[Space Gravy]

What about the concept of referrals ? that a big no no ?

There are certain floor plans I refuse to build because in my opinion they are crap. Should I be forced to build them anyway instead of referring the client to a different contractor If I can't convince them the FP is crap ?

Not really a good comparison.

You refuse to build that floor plan for EVERYONE.

I'm under the impression from the article they refused to perform this procedure for a certain population group but will for others. That's the problem I have with it.

[Sonnabend]

Well, thats a procedure which is decided on by the patient themself.

Uh, plastic surgery includes reconstruction, "boob jobs" for women who have radical mastectomies, other cosmetic repairs. Easy on the broad brush, some "cosmetic surgery" is optional, yes, but not all plastic surgery..not by a long chalk.

A plastic surgery repair for a cleft palate isn't a life threatening issue, and you could argue it is "optional"..I'd argue that it's essential surgery.