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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    I seemed to recall that Conyers had, if not a criminal charge, at least some ethical lapses on his own, and I found it here:
    Conyers Caught In Ethics Scandal


    So, not a complete crook in his own right, but certainly ethically challenged.

    Can't argue with that.


    Nothing has come of those allegations at this point. Usually, in cases like this, with long-time Detroit political leaders, the accusers are the ones who end up going to jail. Just like with Coleman Young-the feds sent in an undercover guy to set him up-the fed ended up going to prison, along with the police chief. Coleman got elected to another term.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Nothing has come of those allegations at this point. Usually, in cases like this, with long-time Detroit political leaders, the accusers are the ones who end up going to jail. Just like with Coleman Young-the feds sent in an undercover guy to set him up-the fed ended up going to prison, along with the police chief. Coleman got elected to another term.
    As did Marion Barry, who was convicted. And while Young was never convicted, the people around him were at an astonishing rate. From Wikipedia:

    Mayor Young's hand-picked Police Chief, close friend and political advisor William L. Hart, served for 15 years as Chief before being indicted and convicted for stealing $2.6 Million from police undercover funds.[9] The Deputy Chief of Police, a close business partner of Coleman Young, was charged and convicted in a separate case involving investment fraud.[9] The culmination of the many investigations, indictments and convictions of those around Young led many observers to believe he was at the center of the widespread corruption in the city government, which included school boards, sanitation, and many other departments, but especially the police department. Detroit has been unable to lose its reputation as one of the most corrupt cities in America that began during, and is frequently attributed to, Young's long tenure.[10] [11] [12] [13] [13]
    But, the most scathing indictment of Young came in this statement:

    Upon learning of Young's death former President Jimmy Carter called Young "one of the greatest mayors our country has known."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post

    But, the most scathing indictment of Young came in this statement:


    The funniest thing about that is that Coleman Young loathed Jimmy Carter. He supported Ted K in the 1980 primaries. One of the best known quotes of Coleman's comes from his visit to Carter in the White House. Carter sent a black undersecretary to greet the Mayor, and Coleman said to him: "I didn't come here to see the house n@$$#^, get me the Man".

    Coleman always got along better with the republican governor, William Milliken, than he did with democrat Jim Blanchard. Milliken gave the nicest and best speech at Coleman's funeral, too.
     

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