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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Because a lot of us feel it's murder. Has nothing to do with my religious beliefs. I think we've cheapened life. The inner city kid who's seen his sister have three abortions, decides he want's somebody else's sneakers. Why not just pop a cap in his ass and take them. :(
    Why is this not common in other countries where abortion is legal, then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    No to VP. I'd be OK with a cabinet position perhaps.

    Probably about the 4th person to agree with this. I think McCain needs to go right on his VP choice, not left, but I do like Joe Lieberman. I don't agree with all of his positions (abortion, gay marriage, etc), but respect his honesty and ethics. At least he understands GWOT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Why is this not common in other countries where abortion is legal, then?

    Because most of those countries are socialist. Not much class envy when everybody is equally miserable. I bet our violent crime rate is higher all around, but that doesn't negate what I say. I would be interested to compare our abortion rate to Europe's. I bet they have less accidental pregnancies. I'm not going to google it, but if I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Because most of those countries are socialist. Not much class envy when everybody is equally miserable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Because most of those countries are socialist. Not much class envy when everybody is equally miserable.
    Oh, PUHLEEZE. Unlike you, I have been to most of these countries, and the most "socialist" - Denmark, Sweden, for example - are incredibly clean and safe. No one looked miserable.
    I think in general there is a lower abortion rate in European countries, but they don't agonize over the question in general. They think it's the woman's business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YupItsMe View Post
    Because most of those countries are socialist. Not much class envy when everybody is equally miserable....
    Have you ever been to Europe? Most of the people I know there aren't particularly miserable!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    There is noise about McCain choosing Lieberman as his VP, especially as Lieberman is speaking at the GOP convention. What do you think?
    You're joking, I hope, Elspeth? :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    Damn Elspeth.....he has a lot of appeal. But can he carry Ohio and Florida? More to the point....SHIT, he could carry California. the primaries and the last election show he has a strong following.

    Elspeth, you are full of surprises.:)
    LOL!!!

    Actually, I have been hearing some noise about Lieberman and my conservative friends always liked him. There is also the fact that Senator Lieberman was challenged in 2006 (in the Democratic primary) by Ned Lamont who was backed by none other than Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. These two far lefters were flanking Lamont when he gave his victory speech. (You just KNOW Donna Brazile was in the background somewhere!) The more centrist Lieberman went independent and eventually won the election as an independent but he could only do that because he had strong Republican support.

    Now Lieberman is speaking at GOP convention. As a strong backer of Israel and the current war against terrorism, Lieberman also brings more socially tolerant credentials, though he is in no way a leftie wingnut. He is also a religious Jew and that carries weight in some quarters.

    I don't know what his role in a McCain administration will be--if any--but when I heard it floated that he might be being considered for VP, I wondered how it would fly with conservatives. I would feel very comfortable with a McCain/Lieberman ticket, but then I am a centrist Dem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    You're joking, I hope, Elspeth? :p
    Not joking, but it isn't my idea. I have been hearing noise about this. I think it may be far fetched unless Lieberman should change his party allegiance at the convention, but I doubt that too. I just thought that in this election year when so MANY people are opposed to Obama, and even traditional Democrats find him completely unprepared and are not sure where he even stands on anything, it might be nice to have a more centrist ticket. I really am a centrist at heart, and a McCain/Lieberman ticket appeals to me.

    But I think you all are right that a cabinet position might be a better idea. Maybe Homeland Security?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Not joking, but it isn't my idea. I have been hearing noise about this. I think it may be far fetched unless Lieberman should change his party allegiance at the convention, but I doubt that too. I just thought that in this election year when so MANY people are opposed to Obama, and even traditional Democrats find him completely unprepared and are not sure where he even stands on anything, it might be nice to have a more centrist ticket. I really am a centrist at heart, and a McCain/Lieberman ticket appeals to me.
    But I think you all are right that a cabinet position might be a better idea. Maybe Homeland Security?
    Interesting......it would really throw this thing into a crapshoot
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