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    Volt Fraud At Government Motors

    Posted 10/19/2010 06:55 PM ET

    Green Technology: Government Motors' all-electric car isn't all-electric and doesn't get near the touted hundreds of miles per gallon. Like "shovel-ready" jobs, maybe there's no such thing as "plug-ready" cars either.

    The Chevy Volt, hailed by the Obama administration as the electric savior of the auto industry and the planet, makes its debut in showrooms next month, but it's already being rolled out for test drives by journalists. It appears we're all being taken for a ride.

    When President Obama visited a GM plant in Hamtramck near Detroit a few months ago to drive a Chevy Volt 10 feet off an assembly line, we called the car an "electric Edsel." Now that it's about to hit the road, nothing revealed has changed our mind.

    Advertised as an all-electric car that could drive 50 miles on its lithium battery, GM addressed concerns about where you plug the thing in en route to grandma's house by adding a small gasoline engine to help maintain the charge on the battery as it starts to run down. It was still an electric car, we were told, and not a hybrid on steroids.

    That's not quite true. The gasoline engine has been found to be more than a range-extender for the battery. Volt engineers are now admitting that when the vehicle's lithium-ion battery pack runs down and at speeds near or above 70 mph, the Volt's gasoline engine will directly drive the front wheels along with the electric motors. That's not charging the battery that's driving the car.

    So it's not an all-electric car, but rather a pricey $41,000 hybrid that requires a taxpayer-funded $7,500 subsidy to get car shoppers to look at it. But gee, even despite the false advertising about the powertrain, isn't a car that gets 230 miles per gallon of gas worth it?

    We heard GM's then-CEO Fritz Henderson claim the Volt would get 230 miles per gallon in city conditions. Popular Mechanics found the Volt to get about 37.5 mpg in city driving, and Motor Trend reports: "Without any plugging in, (a weeklong trip to Grandma's house) should return fuel economy in the high 30s to low 40s."
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    My 4 year old Toyota Corolla was getting the same mileage, and it only cost me $9,000.
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    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
    Not at all. I just loathe being brow beaten about not buying American, when it's an inferior product.
    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
    So, it's okay to lie to consumers about your product claims as long as it's made in America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
    I perfer German made cars myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
    You buy one big mouth. Personally, I drive Fords. I have an '89 Ford F-150 that appears to be finally breathing it's last breaths...after over 260,000 miles. That, and Ford didn't take any handouts from the gubment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Damn. Some people just loathe American manufacturing.
    So, now you're shilling for corporate America? Or don't you find false advertising to be something worth complaining about?
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    So, it's okay to lie to consumers about your product claims as long as it's made in America?
    It's certainly okay to lie to taxpayers, as long as you're in this administration. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    So, it's okay to lie to consumers about your product claims as long as it's made in America?
    Don't believe every factish thing you read. Especially from an American manufacturing hating publication trying to stroke the outsourcing douchebags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Don't believe every factish thing you read. Especially from an American manufacturing hating publication trying to stroke the outsourcing douchebags.
    http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/11/autos/volt_mpg/

    Chevy Volt to get 230 mpg rating
    And... EVERY story I could find about the Volt now shows 50mpg top.
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