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SonnabendGuest
08-21-2008, 11:05 AM
That doesn't mean that I think that those that volunteer are unsuitable, simply that, in the scheme of percentages, women are less capable of serving than men
So why not let them?
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08-21-2008, 11:22 AM
Interesting. I think the idea behind conscription is to create more bodies to throw at the enemy, and it was proven in Vietnam and subsequent military conflicts that such style of warfare doesn't work. But I think that if there was a draft, and the idea was more than fodder, then women should also be subject to it. Women don't have to serve in combat roles, they could serve in support or auxiliary, if women in combat remains a compelling concern.
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08-21-2008, 11:25 AM
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying, Sonnabend. I just think John was tired and the draft comment didn’t even register. I don’t think it’s any more complicated than that. What bothers me is why his people didn’t immediately come out afterward and clarify their guy’s statement.
At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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08-21-2008, 02:06 PM
I'm not a military history expert, and I really don't have links and such to back me up, but I don't believe that the style of warfare being draft related failed to work. I think the politics of how the war was executed was what caused failure. I also think that if there is to be a draft, college shouldn't be a deferment. There is nothing like putting socio-economic distinctions in place to cause issues with regards to such a thing.
But I think that if there was a draft, and the idea was more than fodder, then women should also be subject to it. Women don't have to serve in combat roles, they could serve in support or auxiliary, if women in combat remains a compelling concern.
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08-21-2008, 02:08 PM
I understand that they do well, although I don't know the full extent of their participation.
So why not let them?
But it's not an easy question for me. All the answers I have I'm not completely comfortable with.
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08-21-2008, 02:24 PM
Understand that the participants of the Viet Nam conflict, both military personnel and protesting street scum are still quite with us and still retain very strong emotions about that SEA incursion. If McCain were to reinstate the draft this country would go into revolution mode in about a week. Even hinting that such an eventuality is possible, especially prior to being elected, will equate to the gold standard of political suicide.
At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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08-21-2008, 02:27 PM
Draft my ass!
As a conservative...I'll take my que from Reagan.
it rests on the assumption that your kids belong to the state. If we buy that assumption then it is for the state – not for parents, the community, the religious institutions or teachers – to decide who shall have what values and who shall do what work, when, where and how in our society. That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought it was a great idea."
Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war, in which the folly or the wickedness of Government may engage it?Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown
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EyelidsGuest
08-21-2008, 03:09 PM
I'll run to Canada if they have a draft and come back once it's over. Screw fighting these asshole's wars.
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