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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    My wife set me up yesterday! She tells her buds at work that I like to cook so they asked her if I would cook thier turkeys for thier party tomorrow. She brought home 2 - 25 pound birds last nite and she has to bring them back to work tomorrow! :eek:

    She also brought home 2 of those aluminum turkey pans to cook and deliver them in.....well.....
    as I was tucking the wing tips under the bird I guess I poked a little hole in the pan!:o

    Cooked the first one for 5 hours, let the oven cool down, an hour of cleaning the messy grease and drippings and I just put bird #2 in for 5 more hours!

    I guess this could be whiny!!!
    :D

    Oh yea, I stuffed the bird with onion halves, apple halves and celery. Shoved a 1/2 onion in the neck hole, salted the whole bird in and out and dumped a stick of melted butter over it and sprinkled garlic powder all over. It looks good!

    I'm waiting for patriot45 to build one of these .


    TURDUCKEN (A CHICKEN IN A DUCK IN A TURKEY)

    If anyone can do it patriot45 the one !!

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    We saw a turducken recipe mentioned in a newspaper and tried it for the first time in 1990. It is so much better than a regular turkey that we have made many more turduckens over the years. The juices from the duck and the sausage stuffing really help to add flavor to the turkey and keep it moist without basting. This is what we do:

    The Turducken will need to cook for approximately 9 hours at 225 degrees F so begin preparation well in advance. The fowls can be deboned the day before and kept refrigerated overnight. Save the turkey carcass for making stock and some duck skin to render fat. We sometimes make the sausage stuffing the night before and store it in the refrigerator, but it helps to warm it in the microwave before final assembly.
    Basic Needs:

    * 16-20 lb whole turkey
    * 4-5 lb whole duckling
    * 3-4 lb whole chicken (or use a larger chicken and place the duckling inside it)
    * corn bread dressing
    * sausage stuffing
    * large roasting pan and rack
    * cotton string
    * large needle and cotton thread

    Debone the birds:

    Sharpen those knives! Maximize your work area so you have plenty of room and light. Use the kitchen table if there's not enough counter space. If it is your first time deboning a fowl, it is advisable to practice first on the chicken rather than the turkey since mistakes will be hidden inside the bigger birds.

    Rinse the turkey and remove the neck and any giblets. Place the turkey, breast side down, on a clean flat surface. Cut through the skin along the length of the spine. Using the tip of a knife and starting from the neck end, gently separate meat from rib cage on one side. Toward neck end, cut through the meat to expose the shoulder blade; cut meat away from and around the bone, severing bone at the joint to remove shoulder blade. Disjoint wing between second and third joints. Leave the wing bones and keep the wing attached to the meat.

    Continue separating meat from frame, heading toward the thighbone and being careful to keep the "oyster" (pocket of meat on back) attached to skin, rather than leaving it with the bone. Cut through ball-and-socket joint to release the thighbone from the carcass (bird will be open on one side, exposing bones left to deal with). Keep the leg attached to the meat.

    Repeat boning procedure on the other side of the bird. Carefully remove the carcass and use it to make stock. Stock is needed for making stuffing and more stock is needed for gravy. To make stock, put the turkey carcass in a large pot and cover with water. Bring to a boil, then simmer on low heat overnight.

    You should end up with a flat boneless (except for wings and legs) turkey with the skin intact in one large piece. Put the boned turkey in a large dish or bowl and cover with plastic wrap to keep it from drying out. Place it in the refrigerator.

    Repeat the deboning process on the duckling and the chicken, but debone both stumps of wings and leg drumsticks. Cut through flesh at the thinnest point and trim around these bones with a knife until they can be removed. (Since they have little meat, we usually cut off the entire wings and add them to the stock pot.) Both the chicken and duck will be stuffed inside the turkey and need not be kept "perfectly" intact.

    Trim excess skin and fat from the birds. Ducks, in particular, have a lot of excess fatty skin that should be saved to render fat to be used later for making gravy. We usually completely remove the skin from the chicken, but keep some duck skin which adds flavor.
    Prepare seasoning mix and set aside:

    * 2 tablespoons salt
    * 2 tablespoons paprika
    * 1 tablespoon black pepper
    * 1-2 teaspoons dried thyme

    Sausage stuffing:

    Melt butter in large skillet over high heat. Add 3 cups onions and 1-1/2 cups celery. Saute until onions are dark brown but not burned, about 10 to 12 minutes. Add 2 lbs sausage (we prefer spicy Italian sausage) to the skillet and cook about 5 minutes or until the meat is browned, stirring frequently. Add paprika (3 tbsp.) and minced garlic (3 tbsp.) and cook approximately 3 minutes over medium heat, stirring occasionally. Stir in 3 cups of stock and bring to simmer. Continue cooking until water evaporates and oil rises to top, about 10 minutes. Stir in 2-3 cups toasted bread crumbs and mix well. Add more bread crumbs if mixture is too moist.

    Prepare a similar amount of another stuffing such as corn bread stuffing.
    Assembly:

    At least 10 to 11 hours before dinner, assemble the Turducken.

    Spread the turkey, skin down, on flat surface, exposing as much meat as possible. Rub 3 tablespoons of seasoning mix evenly on meat. Spread sausage stuffing over the turkey in an even layer approximately 3/4 inch thick.

    Place duck, skin down, on top of stuffing. Season exposed duck meat with about 1 tbsp. of seasoning mix. Spread corn bread stuffing in an even layer (about 1/2 inch thick) over the duck.

    Arrange the chicken, skin down, evenly on top of corn bread stuffing. Season chicken meat with seasoning mix. Spread remainder of sausage and/or corn bread stuffing on top of chicken. The assemblage will look something like this.

    With another person's help, carefully lift the sides of the layered birds, folding the sides of the turkey together. Have a helper hold the bird while sewing the opening down the back of the turkey together using cotton thread. The bird may not close perfectly, and a strip of cheese cloth can be used to help close the "crack" in the back of the turkey so stuffing will not leak out when the bird is turned over.

    Since the turducken has no skeleton, it must be trussed up or it may fall apart in cooking. Tie 4-5 pieces of cotton string around the bird, widthwise to act as skeletal support. Turn the bird over and place in a roasting rack inside a large roasting pan so it is oriented breast side up and looks like a "normal" turkey. Tie the legs together just above the tip bones.
    Cooking:

    Heat oven to 225 degrees F. Temperature control is critical since the turducken is so massive that it has to be cooked slowly at a low temperature to prevent burning the outside before the interior is cooked. Using an oven thermometer is highly recommended. We place 2-3 oven thermometers at different locations within the oven to monitor oven temperature. We also use a meat thermometer inside the bird to measure its internal temperature.

    Place the bird in the center of the oven and bake until a meat thermometer inserted through to center reads 165 degrees, approximately 9 hours, though cooking times will vary depending on the size of the birds and amount of stuffing used. Rely on temperature and not time cooked for doneness.

    There will be no need to baste, but accumulated drippings may need to be removed from the pan every few hours so that the lower portion does not deep fry in the hot oil. Save pan drippings for gravy. Remove the turducken from the oven and let cool in the pan for an hour before serving. Make gravy according to your favorite recipe.

    To serve cut bird in half. Carve crosswise so each slice reveals all 3 meats and stuffings. Will make 15 to 25 servings.
    Simple Gravy:

    Take 1 cup of pan drippings plus 1 cup of flour and cook over medium heat until "tan". Add 10 cups stock to fat/flour all at once. Whisk thouroughly. Bring back to a boil and then simmer for 5 min. Whisk constantly. Add salt + pepper + paprika "to taste".

    Another simple gravy variation is to use about a quarter to half cup of pinot grigio and about two to three tablespoons of instant potatoes instead of the flour. Test for taste and if it gets too thick add water or more pinot.

    The gravy can be made in advance and allowed to stand over low heat for at least 2 hours (maybe more). We usually make at least two batches.

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    Hell no! Thats too much work!

    You can get em pre made at Walmart!! Last time I bought one about 5 yrs ago they were about 45 bucs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by megimoo View Post
    You being the thoughtful and cautious critter that you are I'll bet you took it outdoors just be doubly safe ?:D
    I would never fry a turkey. I like it fine if someone else makes at their house. :eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    Hell no! Thats too much work!

    You can get em pre made at Walmart!! Last time I bought one about 5 yrs ago they were about 45 bucs!
    The joy is in the doing.Think of a variation on the original.The after taste is everything !!

    The ancient Chinese Chef who came up with Peking Duck was famous long after he was dead .
    Come up with a new dish ,considering the after taste above all else, will make you famous !

    Consider For example Oysters Rockefeller: It consists of oysters on the half-shell that have been topped with spinach,Swiss cheese, a rich butter sauce and bread crumbs and are then baked or broiled.

    Or Sauce Béarnaise : Béarnaise uses shallot, chervil, peppercorn, and tarragon while Hollandaise uses lemon juice.

    To coin a phrase that will make you famous :

    An avid cheese lover, Brillat-Savarin remarked: "A dessert without cheese is like a beautiful woman with only one eye."

    He compared after-taste, the perfume or fragrance of food, to musical enharmonics (Meditation ii): "but for the odor which is felt in the back of the mouth, the sensation of taste would be but obtuse and imperfect."

    "The discovery of a new dish confers more happiness on humanity, than the discovery of a new star."

    "Tell me what you eat, and I will tell you what you are."

    "A man who was fond of wine was offered some grapes at dessert after dinner. 'Much obliged,' said he, pushing the plate aside, 'I am not accustomed to take my wine in pills.'"

    "To receive guests is to take charge of their happiness during the entire time they are under your roof.'"
    The famous Conservative Editor William F Buckley followed this edict to the letter !

    "Cooking is one of the oldest arts and one that has rendered us the most important service in civic life."

    "The pleasure of the table belongs to all ages, to all conditions, to all countries, and to all aeras; it mingles with all other pleasures, and remains at last to console us for their departure."
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    Here you go Moo! Beat this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post

    On a related note: I have made slow-cooked, overnight turkey and lived to tell about it. That is some of the juiciest, deeply flavored turkey you will ever eat. And no matter what the food Nazis say, it's perfectly safe. ;)
    I find that if you cook the bird on it's breast - you NEVER have a dry turkey. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I find that if you cook the bird on it's breast - you NEVER have a dry turkey. :)
    Are you Messin with the chickens again ?
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    Looks great Patriot.

    I am flying out to NY tomorrow morning...so no cooking for me!

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Post pics of the birds and sides on TG Day!

    I will try to upload as well.

    My family (regardless of who cooks) makes the turkey the same way. Sausage,Mushroom, Onion and Rice Stuffing....I couldn't imagine making it any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    Looks great Patriot.

    I am flying out to NY tomorrow morning...so no cooking for me!

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Post pics of the birds and sides on TG Day!

    I will try to upload as well.

    My family (regardless of who cooks) makes the turkey the same way. Sausage,Mushroom, Onion and Rice Stuffing....I couldn't imagine making it any other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    They now have an indoor turkey fryer! See it here.

    On a related note: I have made slow-cooked, overnight turkey and lived to tell about it. That is some of the juiciest, deeply flavored turkey you will ever eat. And no matter what the food Nazis say, it's perfectly safe. ;)
    I had never heard of it so I googled.

    The directions I read were to use a roasting pan and set it for between 200 and 250 degrees and cook it overnight for however many hours.

    I didn't see the potential problems.
    Hey careful man! There's a beverage here!
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