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#1 Left sees tax surrender, says Obama reelection bid now crippled12-07-2010, 11:36 AM
Left sees tax surrender, says Obama reelection bid now crippled
By Sam Youngman - 12/07/10 06:00 AM ET
President Obama could be crippling his own reelection effort by making a deal with Republicans to extend all of the Bush-era tax cuts, Democratic strategists and liberal groups said Monday.
A two-year extension of tax rates ushered in by President George W. Bush nearly a decade ago, would ensure a resumption of today’s fiery debate in 2012, when Obama is expected to reapply for his job, strategists in both parties said.
It also is angering the left wing of the Democratic Party, which already has a long list of complaints about Obama.
“President Obama has shown a complete refusal to fight Republicans throughout his presidency even when the public is on his side — and millions of his former supporters are now growing disappointed and infuriated by this refusal to fight,” said Adam Green, co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee.
The PCCC on Monday afternoon circulated quotes from 2008 Obama campaign staffers who expressed disillusionment with the president for agreeing to extend tax cuts for the wealthy amid signs that the White House and Republicans were edging closer to a deal.
“Obama is demobilizing the troops and demoralizing the public right before he seeks reelection,” Green said.
The compromises by the White House have also disappointed liberals in the House and Senate, who have pushed Obama to take a tougher line with the GOP. Some liberals had said it would be better for Obama to allow all of the tax cuts to expire rather than cave to GOP demands and allow tax cuts for the wealthy to be extended.
Democratic strategists are disappointed that the president appears to be fighting the tax debate on terms dictated by Republicans, who have been able to frame a tax increase on any taxpayers as detrimental to a struggling economy. Friday’s unemployment report, showing a surprising jump in the jobless rate — to 9.8 percent — didn’t make matters easier for the White House.
12-07-2010, 11:43 AM
It all depends on whether people like Soros want to purchase this election like they did the last one.The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
12-07-2010, 12:22 PM
12-07-2010, 05:09 PM
Crybabies. Did they really expect Obama to deliver everything he promised? No politician of any party ever does-they get into office and they realize there is only so much they can do.
Did they (the left) want to pay higher taxes until congress could sort out who is rich enough to pay a higher tax? They were all disappointed in Clinton for NAFTA, but they still re-elected him.
12-07-2010, 08:14 PM
I voted for Obama, very enthusiastically. It's semi-accurate to say I was part of his "base", who voted for him during the primaries.
However, this year I did NOT vote for democrats, and in 2012 I will NOT give my vote to a corporatist weaseling party like the Democrats just because I want to "stop the Republicans" (which is sadly the only reason people vote democrat anymore, even though both parties are extremely unjust elitist parties)
Obama ran as a man of the people, someone who would restore old left wing values and he's turned his back and so far has been a consistent continuation of all of Bush's policies.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
12-07-2010, 08:17 PM
I really wish Satanicus would start posting again. Between the election, and this, he's gotta be considering whether to use the razorblade, or pills.In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.
In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
12-08-2010, 12:21 PM
The left has decided that Obama is too weak for their tastes (apparently, they expected a man who had never accomplished anything to be a pillar of strength), and are starting to attack him. This cartoon sums up their position:
12-08-2010, 12:45 PM
Uh, no. People vote for Democrats because they forget how bad they are. People vote for Republicans when they've been reminded.
Even today, most people who still support the democrats will tell you that, in the end, their main reason for supporting them is because they are afraid of what they see as totally crazy Republicans taking power.
This is not a good reason to support someone.
Obama, a "man of the people"? ROFLOL!!! Obama campaigned as the savior of America. His campaign presented him in messianic terms, and emphasized his moral and intellectual superiority to the rest of us. Of course, that turned out to be a complete lie, as he's actually not that sharp (smart people learn from their mistakes, dim people repeat them).
He promised to stop campaigning on fear. Many people from all political stripes felt betrayed by Bush. We felt that he had used the public's justified fear and trauma after 9/11 to push forward with ridiculous laws like the Patriot Act and moves like the invasion of Iraq. People wanted a leader who would speak to them like adults, rather than playing to people's basic animal fears.
Unfortunately, this was maybe hoping for too much.
I still think he's extraordinarily intelligent, and I didn't buy into the left's arguments that Bush was stupid either. He pushed his agenda extremely effectively he knew damn well what he was doing.
He has governed as a socialist with a serious radical edge, and the massive Democratic defeat in the midterms was the direct result of the people getting a good look at what Obama really stands for, which is American decline and failure.
Obama is NOT a socialist, he doesn't push for any socialist policies, and every self-identified socialist/marxist is extremely unhappy with Obama. Socialist parties in the USA have totally disavowed Obama. Obama is NOT a leftist by any significant measure.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
12-08-2010, 01:08 PM
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