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12-06-2010, 10:26 PM
You joke, but I think it's an interesting dynamic. Another thing is company loyalty. Every company I've worked for expects me to be loyal - aka if a competitor comes along in the middle of a project and wants to double my salary, I am expected not to take that offer. In fact, most of the contracts I've had for a variety of places has a non-compete clause they can invoke.
On the other hand, how many people expect their company to be loyal to them? Never, if you are doing a bad job you expect the company to fire you. But if the company is doing a bad job, you are expected to stick around.
At least in creative industries, I notice this trend is increasing.
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12-06-2010, 10:30 PM
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
And clever in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB
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12-06-2010, 10:33 PM
No, sick time and vacation time (as we know it today) along with health care were incentives used by all employers during WWII to recruit when wages were forcibly stagnant.
Today, these things are part of an employee's total compensation. It's what any of us contract for, union or not. What's wrong here is the parental view of employee leave. Some employers act as though sick leave (or vacation time) can only be taken under the "right" circumstances. You have to be sick enough or worthy enough for a vacation. That's nuts.
While employees need to take company staffing needs into consideration when they take off, if the the schedule is arranged, no other questions need to be asked.
This P.I. stuff seems like it needs to be confined to people abusing FMLA or other programs, not people faking a sick day.
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12-06-2010, 10:36 PM
In some industries you don't really have a choice. If it's that or being unemployed...
Also, when I say "contract" I mean "employment contract" as in permanent position. Most of the time you can get a waiver (has to be signed by management) for personal side projects as long as they dont compete with the core business, but it's interesting that the default is the company owns everything you do, even if it's in your free time with your own resources.
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12-06-2010, 10:38 PM
The trouble is people tend to take sick time during high volume business times - hence what NJ said about what you need to have in order to call off Superbowl Sunday. Most businesses only care when they know the system is being abused - when they're looking for an excuse - or when people take time off during high volume business time. And why don't these people take a personal day? Or a day off without pay?
Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
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12-07-2010, 12:41 AM
They don't have personal days - that's the problem. When all your leave aside from maternity leave, short-term disability, funeral/adoption leave and leave without pay, is in one pot, you don't have "sick leave" or anything else. Every leave day is a "personal day".
Too many places (and all union places) divvy it up by type. That's wrong. It's not actually "okay" for employers to do a lot of leave-without-pay. Sure, you aren't paying them but the workforce that is left has to suck up all the hours themselves with no hope of relief.
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