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    Wow. :eek: Such honesty about feeling it was actually a mistake to vote for GWB. Outstanding.:)
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkHalo View Post
    Seems to me that McCain is little more than 'Bush Lite' and my frustration level with Bush is beyond description.

    Besides if the economy and other things go in the shitter I would rather it was Dem that gets credit for it.

    I imagine that I will 'throw away my vote' this time and vote Libertarian.
    If Obama is elected, he will raise the Capital Gains taxes from15% to 28%. He says now that he may not want to increase it by that much. Since my house is paid for, I will sell my house if he is elected because the Democrats will mess with that exemption also.

    Secondly, raising taxes will cause the economy and the stock market to go into the tank. Job losses and interest rates will go up. Be prepared to give the Feds more of your money. Can we say Carter #2.

    Thirdlly, Obama and the Democrats will raise taxes on gasoline. How does $10 a gallon gasoline sound. It's 5 bucks in CA. After the Feds add their tax, the state will follow and then the oil co., distributor and station owner will add on to that amouont.

    Fourthly and most importantly is the fact that Obama is weak on defense and the security of this country. The threat and prevention of terrorism is my number one concern.

    I could go on and on about the new massive social programs, Warren style Supreme Court, anti-gun laws, etc. etc. that will enacted but that would just be overkill.

    Conclusion: I think McCain is a first class asshole; I don't like him. But from where I stand, he is much better than Obama who is a left wing lilberal marxist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibraryLady View Post
    Not holding my nose at all. I voted for McCain in the primary.

    I would NEVER vote for Obama. I value my grandaughter too much to dump his S**T on her future.
    I did the same. I really wish Fred had wanted this enough and fought to stay in.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by megimoo View Post
    Saddam was getting to be a real danger,there is evidence that he had a financial hand in the first world trade center bombing !The old man Bush 1 couldn't finish him off because the Saudi's were against it and the whole anti-Saddam block would fall apart if he tried .

    I don't think that the average American needs to much feel the NSA spying on him/her as They are looking for hard core anti-American plotters.Our hum-drum little lives fail to cross the NSA interest threshold no matter what Carl Levin or 'batboy' Waxman's Oversight Committee insinuate !

    With the advent of nation wide fibre optic computer/telephone switching networks and the ability to search for 'key words' in real-time they sure can listen to and record anything we say on the telephone if they care too.Most conversations are ignored and if someone bitches and moans about the government they have noticed it a million times before and ignored it .

    And as I recall Reagan had to spend a bunch to destroy the old Soviet Union .This runaway liberal congress are the ones who are spending up a storm.Bush veto's as many as he politically can but the Rino's will breakaway if he veto's every spending bill he gets !
    Saddam was the UN's problem. We cleaned up their mess. There is no evidence Saddam had anything to do with 9/11.

    Searches and Seizures and Wiretaps should never be allowed without a warrant.

    Bush signed all the spending bills. Bush vetoed none of them to my knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zafod View Post
    I did the same. I really wish Fred had wanted this enough and fought to stay in.....
    That was frustrating, wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibraryLady View Post
    That was frustrating, wasn't it?
    I'm still frustrated about that.:( 8 months ago I was wondering why McCain was still even bothering with his bid. Life is "funny" sometimes. I'll vote for him. I won't like it though.
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    I don't think McCain is a traitor or a coward... On defense and national security he is well within the Republican main stream and that should be the most important issue of all to everybody. Without security it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or what the capital gains tax is.

    I am a defense oriented pragmatic Democrat. I could not be less enthusiastic about Obama's candidacy. Hillary was right on the all isssues to me and especially on defense...She would not have cut and run on Iraq no matter what she had to say to win the primary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everyman68 View Post
    I don't think McCain is a traitor or a coward... On defense and national security he is well within the Republican main stream and that should be the most important issue of all to everybody. Without security it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or what the capital gains tax is.
    Bingo, we have a winner here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by everyman68 View Post
    I don't think McCain is a traitor or a coward... On defense and national security he is well within the Republican main stream and that should be the most important issue of all to everybody. Without security it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court or what the capital gains tax is.
    Agreed. Also, I didn't spend a year of my life in Iraq, missing my daughter's first steps, first birthday and a host of other things that I will never get back just to see it thrown away because the Democrats can't deal with the idea of actually winning a war. I will hold my nose and vote for McCain, or rather, against Obama.
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    I don't know, there is never a perfect candidate but with bar set as low as it is how do we keep getting choices like McCain - Obama? I feel that fiscal conservatives do not have a party anymore. I am content with my decision to not vote for Bush in the last two elections. He has done well on a few things but it seems for every good thing we got something like the prescription drug program or no child left behind. More than a few things passed his desk that he should have vetoed like the campaign finance reform etc. Then there is his stance on immigration. :( I don't think we should have gone into Iraq but now that we are there we need to see it through. The spending makes me ill every time I think about it. I had high hopes for Bush even though I did not vote for him but with McCain my expectations are pretty low.

    As far as voting for the lesser of two evils it always gets you evil. I do not want to see Obama in the white house but maybe if the Republicans really take it on the chin they will clean up their act. If the sorry bastards keep getting voted in they will continue to act like liberals. We no longer have a conservative party. The democrats are now socialists and the republicans are now democrats. :(

    I will probably end up voting libertarian again.
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