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    mdavies013 (272 posts) Sun Dec-12-10 02:45 PM
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    We need to rush through the tax cut..that raises taxes on the poor????
    If you make $20,000 or less your taxes rise under this plan. Just the kind of help poor people are looking for...the shaft.
    This is the second place on the internet I've seen this. I'd really love to know what the hell they are talking about. But he isn't the target of this thread.

    doc03 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 02:53 PM
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    1. Wouldn't the making work pay and the $250 that SS
    Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 02:58 PM by doc03
    recipients got last year have the same stimulative effect as the payroll tax cut? The Obama plan is tilted to the upper income people too, anyone making over $106000 gets a $2120 break. The people making under $20000 get $400 or less. SS recipients get nothing. Didn't the making work pay plan give a married couple $800 and a single $400?
    Nor is he, this is just the lead up.

    Now brace yourselves everyone. DOTY Candidate, and strong Annie Award contendor.

    bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 03:25 PM
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    14. "Making work pay" ???? Does it EVER occur to you that some of us CAN'T work????
    bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 06:07 PM
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    46. Nice bait and switch. The topic I replied to talked about replacing current
    "help" with the work plan.

    I replied that, contrary to what so many of you don't seem to get, many USians can't work.

    And, of course, not only did you call me names, but you added the RW tactic of "don't WANT to work".

    There is no point in carrying if further, as clearly there is no desire to understand what some people are living with... real hell.
    bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 03:23 PM
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    13. Haven't you noticed? We poor people don't matter to "progressives".
    Raise the gas tax, charge for plastic bags... hell, pass every REGRESSIVE tax there is.

    Then we poor folk can die and leave more for the rest of you.
    bobbolink (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 03:45 PM
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    19. Thankkk you. Our sufferin and deaths are piffle to DU.
    What a fucking whiner.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x9759525

    Now someone did lay out how the Bush Tax cuts are only a BOON to lower income people. They use cold hard numbers to prove it. And... the post is ignored. Not a single response.

    Whats really cool is that he showed me I'll be getting a 7k tax refund this year. Go deployment!!!! :D
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    There are some mathematics that show for certain lower income levels the loss of the "make work pay" kickback to the 1% FICA reduction will result in a net loss. I am not going to search for it and post it because I don't frankly care that much, but the data is out there to support the claim.

    As to the claim that their taxes will rise, that is typical progressive rhetoric. Their taxes will not rise, their refunds will shrink. These are not the same thing. Most people at the 20K mark get a 100% refund on taxes withheld plus a tax credit that increases their refund so that they get back more than what was withheld. (Before anyone starts picking nits, note I said most people and yes there are exceptions and exclusions)

    But back to bobbo the hobbo...

    I particularly like this....
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    47. How about an office job?
    You seem to have the ability to type pretty proficiently, have you thought about any office work or is there anything in your area that you have the qualifications for
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    48. You know, delving into people's personal business on a public (and often ugly) forum isn't very thoughtful.
    The POINT, since so many of you seem to MISS it,, is that there are many people who are too old, too sick, or too injured to work.
    OK????????????
    You would like us to hurl ourselves off a cliff for you?
    (My answer would be "If you would not mind, Yes")
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    Bobbo has a long history of biting the hand that tries to feed her. People on DU have literally offered her places to live, work, etc... All she's done is attack them.

    Fucking nutcase.

    Personally, when the Pittster got TS'd for threatening her, I bet there was a lot of people on DU who were cheering him.
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    So you are too old, sick or injured to work... but you are not too old, sick, or injured to sit around posting on DU all day in front of the computer... but you are too old, sick, or injured to work an office job that entails sitting in front of the computer.
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    doc03 (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-12-10 02:53 PM
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    1. Wouldn't the making work pay and the $250 that SS
    Edited on Sun Dec-12-10 02:58 PM by doc03
    recipients got last year have the same stimulative effect as the payroll tax cut? The Obama plan is tilted to the upper income people too, anyone making over $106000 gets a $2120 break. The people making under $20000 get $400 or less. SS recipients get nothing. Didn't the making work pay plan give a married couple $800 and a single $400?
    I take it that this person never had an elementary school math education or at least it didn't deal with fractions and percentages. I mean, even breaking it down simply by saying that everyone gets a 2% tax cut, just by mere basic mathematics clears this up, should it? It's amazing how this person doesn't get that. 2% of 100,000 is 2,000 and 2% of 20,000 is 400. Basic math for crying out loud.

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    48. You know, delving into people's personal business on a public (and often ugly) forum isn't very thoughtful.
    The POINT, since so many of you seem to MISS it,, is that there are many people who are too old, too sick, or too injured to work.
    OK????????????
    My wife, who gave up her decent paying job so she can work from home, works from home. Took her all of 15 minutes to find a work from home job. It doesn't make her a million dollars but she's happy. She rolls out of the rack, takes a shower, grabs her coffee, and goes downstairs to our office and works from there.

    You would like us to hurl ourselves off a cliff for you?
    Um, yep.
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