#1 What are the flaws in your own ideology?01-06-2011, 03:19 PM
This is a pretty tough thing for many people to think about. Many people believe that whatever they believe is right (otherwise they wouldn't believe it). However, some people take it an extra step and believe that anything that aligns with their 'ideology' must be correct, that the argument is entirely one-sided. So Leftists think that it's impossible that capitalism could ever do anything good, that's just not true. Likewise, libertarians and free-market conservatives believe that Government is categorically bad and cannot do anything better than a business, also, i think that's just not true.
There's many more, on many issues, whether its religion, abortion, moral social issues, issues of taxation or economic theories, ideas about values and goals.
I've got some work to do away from the computer so unfortunately I cannot fill this thread at the moment, but talking with conservatives and liberals and leftists and just about every stripe has changed my position on many issues and made me more and more aware of my own limitations and the flaws in my ideas. I hope to get a good list of my own confusions, things i just don't "get", things that don't fit with my current framework, and things that people who think like me say that I disagree with, as well as the humbling step of saying I'm wrong on a few issues, or at least seriously misinformed.
The point is, everyone has holes in their personal theory. The question is, are you big enough to acknowledge your own?Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
01-06-2011, 03:24 PM
On Abortion, I'll just say my arguments for this are flimsy at best. I tend to side pro-choice, but if we really break down the hows and whys of the debate, there seems to be a point where it stalls, on the definition of a Person and the question of who deserves Rights.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
01-06-2011, 03:24 PM
To whoever moved this, I submit that your flaw is the inability to acknowledge your own flaws, and the resistance to even try.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
01-06-2011, 03:33 PM
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Abortion is the only major paradox that I am aware of.
If you take a stand of "Absolutely no abortions ever." then you're on safe ground, but it has never been thus.
If you make an exception for gross deformity or other health issue, then anything less than perfect is pretty much in play.
If you make an exception for rape, then we are dealing with a fairly broadly defined term which really boils down to an unwanted pregnancy.
BledaGuest01-06-2011, 03:56 PM
It's just most of the time when someone loses an argument, and the person they're arguing with is being a complete ass about it, they're not going to admit being wrong. I've noticed that only in civil, respectful arguments do people openly admit being wrong and change their position on an issue.
01-06-2011, 05:20 PMThe point is, everyone has holes in their personal theory. The question is, are you big enough to acknowledge your own?The Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
01-06-2011, 05:40 PM"The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
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