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  1. #1 When they pass the plate, basket or what-have-you in churches all over America.... 
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    DUer: Offerings at church are "socialism" so conservatives should be OK with the state and federal government taking your money (taxes) by force because it's the same thing.

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    When they pass the plate, basket or what-have-you in churches all over America....

    Are they not saying....

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?
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    4. Just wondering if church-going rightwingers ever make the connection...

    Socialism isn't all bad.
    They work so hard to "prove" that socialism isn't bad, and that because some things, like the police and fire department and roads are state and federal run that that should mean that we should be OK with socialism. Or they state that because someone gets social security or is on medicare that they are a "hypocrite" if they are against federal mandated health care or other kinds of increasing entitlements (which is simply a method of trying to shut down debate.)

    It simply makes them look like fools, like postal above.
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    2. when it happens in a church...you can let the plate pass

    or you can fill it up. the choice is yours...try that with your taxes. also, in a church, you might actually have some influence over how it is spent (granted that is dependent on the church)...
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    Um, when they pass the church plate around, you are free to take it, and pass it along without making a contribution. And you can make that choice free of any retributions of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Um, when they pass the church plate around, you are free to take it, and pass it along without making a contribution. And you can make that choice free of any retributions of any kind.
    You aren't Episcopalian , are you?
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    ProdigalJunkMail will most likely be tombstoned within a week for that statement.
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    The DUmbass is trying to say that charity is a form of socialism, not to mention that he is assuming that only conservatives give money to churches.


    Both of the churches I attend use the general offerings given on Sundays to maintain the overall budget-salaries, supplies, maintenance, etc., like any other organization. Some of that money (10% in each case) goes to charity work, but if someone wants to contribute to a specific charitable program that the church either sponsors or runs, then they cut a separate check and either designate on the check what the money is for, or on the offering envelope (only one of the churches uses those). I signed a thing for the child sponsorship in which they take the money directly from my checking account once a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    You aren't Episcopalian , are you?
    So Episcopalians are fascists? *shrug* Because the church I belong to says give what you can but only if you can.
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    When they pass the plate, basket or what-have-you in churches all over America....

    Are they not saying....

    From each according to his ability, to each according to his need?
    No moron, they are saying; I voluntarily give this money in the amount I decide, to this particular institution. They are not forced to give anything or any predetermined amount by the CHurch hierarchy.
    My GAWD, stupid like this ought to be taxed. We could pay off the deficit in a couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    So Episcopalians are fascists? *shrug* Because the church I belong to says give what you can but only if you can.
    The vestry conducts a "canvas" each year where they visit with members (Episcopal churches maintain a membership) and ask them to commit to a certain amount each week. You then get a nice little box with 52 envelopes in it to make your pledges in, whether you attend or not. In colonial times, the vestry would sue you if you didn't pay up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    The vestry conducts a "canvas" each year where they visit with members (Episcopal churches maintain a membership) and ask them to commit to a certain amount each week. You then get a nice little box with 52 envelopes in it to make your pledges in, whether you attend or not. In colonial times, the vestry would sue you if you didn't pay up.
    OK. But the last I looked, this is no longer colonial times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    OK. But the last I looked, this is no longer colonial times.
    Typical liberal, they can't run fast enough away when it hurts their cause. For instance; In "Colonial times," the Constitution was respected by the people.
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