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  1. #1 Should public employee unions in Wisconsin call a General Strike? 
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    Since Wisconsin Governor Walker has thrown down the gauntlet and threatened to call out the state National Guard to suppress any strikes by public employee unions, the discussion should now shift to the advisability of a general strike by all Wisconsin public employees covered by collective bargaining agreements, in my opinion.

    What are the arguments for and against a general strike by public sector employees? And what is your opinion about whether a general strike should be on the table at this point?

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    Yes, I hope they do.

    Union membership in WI in 2009 was 15.2%. The other 85 % of the people are not going to take kindly to unions demanding more when unemployment is up, social services are being cut and there is a huge budget shortfall. People are already hurting, unions striking and making life more difficult will not endear them to unions or Democrats who are protesting EVERY possible way to cut the budget except raising taxes.

    http://www.bls.gov/ro5/unionwi.pdf

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    3. Tell Walker to stop the shit or STRIKE TOMORROW. Start with the National guard
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    5. Evey member of the military has the moral and legal responsibility to refuse illegal orders.

    That includes firing of peaceful demonstrators and or strikers
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    The alternative to these cuts are 12,000 lay offs. God these people are retarded.

    I brought this up to a friend of mine who was complaining about it on Facebook. She never responded.
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    If they are civil service, they cannot strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    If they are civil service, they cannot strike.

    That's how it works here, too. If we go on strike, the state can replace us with recent college grads for half the price, so it's kind of stupid to go on strike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    The alternative to these cuts are 12,000 lay offs. God these people are retarded.

    I brought this up to a friend of mine who was complaining about it on Facebook. She never responded.
    it's 6,000 but still a valid point, I posted a bunch of link in the GD forum and my $.02 on it
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    also it's a load of shit, Walker hasn't said anything about using the NG on strikers, he has suggested using them in the Prisons if they go on strike. Bunch of fucking liars is what they are
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    And then the people of wisconsin should come back and outlaw these unions and fire anyone who gives them shit.
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    yes. And then the Governor should do a lot of job abolishing and hire new employees to replace ALL of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    The alternative to these cuts are 12,000 lay offs. God these people are retarded.

    I brought this up to a friend of mine who was complaining about it on Facebook. She never responded.
    Or simply rescinding or postponing the $140 million spending instated by Walker.

    If they just wait a little while on his out-of-control-spending they could easily afford the cuts and the layoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Or simply rescinding or postponing the $140 million spending instated by Walker.

    If they just wait a little while on his out-of-control-spending they could easily afford the cuts and the layoffs.
    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo.../98116689.html

    yeah sure dude

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    Madison The state's yawning budget hole has swelled to $2.5 billion, underscoring the massive challenge that awaits the next governor and Legislature, a new report released Friday shows.

    The projections by the Legislature's nonpartisan budget office show the expected shortfall for the 2011-'13 budget has grown by $462 million from the just over $2 billion that was expected a year ago.

    It is one of the biggest projected shortfalls of the past decade, nearly as large as the $2.9 billion deficit that Gov. Jim Doyle faced in his first budget in 2003.

    The state has survived other harsh budgets in recent years by relying on billions of dollars in one-time money from the federal government or pots of state cash including the transportation fund, but this time those relatively easy solutions will be tougher to find, said Mark Bugher, former secretary of the state Department of Administration.

    "(The next governor) and Legislature are going to have significant challenges because the day of reckoning has arrived," Bugher said. "They are going to have to face up to the notion of cutting spending pretty dramatically or raising fees and taxes or a little bit of both."

    The Legislative Fiscal Bureau report showed the potential deficit increased because taxes and fees aren't growing as quickly as expected and because lawmakers approved some modest additional spending and tax cuts at the end of the legislative session in the spring.
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