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  1. #1 Ahead of the 2012 campaign, states debate voting rights 
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    By Holly Bailey

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    If some GOP lawmakers get their way, it could be a whole lot tougher for people across the country to cast a ballot in the upcoming 2012 presidential election.

    Boosted by major electoral gains in state legislatures nationwide in the 2010 campaign, Republican lawmakers in 32 states are pushing measures that would require citizens to show a state identification or proof of citizenship to vote. Meanwhile, in New Hampshire, GOP lawmakers are proposing new limits on college students who vote in the state, potentially eliminating a key base of electoral support for Democrats in the state ahead of the upcoming presidential election.

    As the Washington Post's Peter Wallsten writes, the measures have set off a partisan battle over voting rights across the country, with Democrats accusing Republicans of trying to suppress voters, including young people and minorities, who would cast their ballots for President Obama and other Democratic candidates next year.

    In New Hampshire, Republicans are pushing to end rules that allow same-day voter registration in the state, which has often provided key swing votes for candidates from all parties in the state. State GOP lawmakers are also proposing new limits on students, including a bill that would allow them to vote in college towns only if they or their parents had established permanent residency in the state.

    Some GOP lawmakers in New Hampshire have billed the measures as an attempt to crack down on voter fraud in the state--but recent remarks from the newly elected GOP state House speaker have suggested otherwise.

    In a recent speech to a tea party group in the state, House Speaker William O'Brien described college voters as "foolish." "Voting as a liberal. That's what kids do," he said, in remarks that were videotaped by a state Democratic Party staffer and posted on YouTube. Students, he said, lack "life experience" and "just vote their feelings."

    GOP lawmakers in the state have distanced themselves from O'Brien's remarks.

    "It's a war on voting," Thomas Bates, vice president of Rock the Vote, a youth voter-registration group, told the Post. "We'd like to be advocating for a 21st-century voting system, but here we are fighting against efforts to turn it back to the 19th century."

    Meanwhile, Republicans have also revived measures that have been debated on and off over the last several election cycles that would require voters to provide state-issued IDs at the polls.

    In Wisconsin, GOP lawmakers are moving forward with legislation that would block students from using school-issued identification to verify their identity at the polls. Meanwhile, in North Carolina, Republicans are preparing to introduce a similar measure requiring state IDs--a plan that the North Carolina Board of Elections has said could be problematic for African-American voters, a key base of support for Obama in 2008.

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    Wisconsin is moving to do more than just remove student ID as a valid ID for voting, pretty sure it's moving to have to use Drivers License
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    Wisconsin is moving to do more than just remove student ID as a valid ID for voting, pretty sure it's moving to have to use Drivers License
    They can't limit it solely to drivers licenses - but they can limit it to federal/state issued IDs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    They can't limit it solely to drivers licenses - but they can limit it to federal/state issued IDs.
    those too
     

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    The problem with student IDs is anyone can get one - all you have to do is register for a single class and you can get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    The problem with student IDs is anyone can get one - all you have to do is register for a single class and you can get one.
    yeah, but in WI at the moment you don't need any ID to vote...thus why the Dems went around and rounded up homeless people in Milwaukee and paid them in Cigs to go vote for Gore in 2000
     

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    Considering how many places require photo ID for entry (airports, bars and pretty much any government building), there is no justification for claiming that it's an infringement on your rights to show one when you go to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    yeah, but in WI at the moment you don't need any ID to vote...thus why the Dems went around and rounded up homeless people in Milwaukee and paid them in Cigs to go vote for Gore in 2000
    How the hell can a homeless person vote without a home in the district?
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    Meanwhile, in North Carolina, Republicans are preparing to introduce a similar measure requiring state IDs--a plan that the North Carolina Board of Elections has said could be problematic for African-American voters, a key base of support for Obama in 2008.
    I don't understand this. Why would it be more problematic, or problematic at all, for black voters to show ID? Does the black population of South Carolina have a lower per-capita ID issue rate or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    How the hell can a homeless person vote without a home in the district?
    it's Dems, wth do you expect
     

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