#1 The Difference Between When The Left Does It And When The Right Does It03-23-2011, 12:19 PM
If there ever was a blatant example of hypocrisy when it comes to the left wing media(which is pretty much 90% of the media) and other leftist entities, it's very apparent right now. Ever since Obama was elected, any, and I do mean any, criticism of him was met with cries of racism. "The only reason they're criticizing him is because they can't stand that a black man is in the White House" has been the meme for over 2 years. But now, as Obama is lobbing cruise missiles into Libya, moonbats like Kucinich, Jackson-Lee, Waters, Michael Moore, Nadar are in full on meltdown mode going so far as to call for his impeachment and yet the commentary from the MSM has been, well..
And yet, if it had been right wing commentators and talking heads doing the same, the cries of racism would be as loud today as they were during Obama's campaign. Personally, I love it. I love exposing the left as the hypocrites that they are. It is really making this dreary Tuesday as bright as a clear spring day.Deplorably Proud To Be An American
03-23-2011, 12:36 PM
nobody gives a shit if you are racist and nobody thinks you are a racist just because you criticize the president.
sorry i know you absolutely love this persecution complex but no one cares.
people on the left (myself included) have been criticizing Obama since 2009, it's nothing new.
I know this might be tough for you to grasp so let me break it down for you:
A group of old men wearing Confederate flag t-shirts carrying signs that say "IMPEACH THE MONKEY" or "go back to KENYA!!" are probably going to be called racist - and guess what? It's not because of their opinion on deficits or health care expansion.
If you cannot figure it out, then I'm sorry.
If you criticize policies that's perfectly fine, no one will think you are a racist.
(i think you are projecting a little)Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
03-23-2011, 12:39 PM
I can give lists and lists of things you can criticize Obama about (just about everything) without anyone calling you racist.
Yes I'm sure there's some whacky nerd in some basement somewhere who might criticize you for whatever stupid reason he thinks, but the vast majority of intelligent adults do not consider criticism of Obama to be racist.
I can give plenty, his economic policy, extended Bush's tax policy, Extended Bush's military policy, policy towards superjudicial detainment, extensions of the patriot act, and plenty more.Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
03-23-2011, 02:02 PM
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Jimmy Carter, former (thank God!) presidentApparently, a former US president, members of congress (including a caucus chair) and columnists for the NY Times, Time Magazine, and even Obama himself, consider his opposition to be motivated by racism. Who would have thought that all of those influential politicians and media personalities were wacky nerds who wrote from their basements?
“As far as African-Americans are concerned, we think most of it is, and we think it’s very unfortunate. We as African-American people of course are very sensitive to it.” Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas), when asked in an interview in between sessions how much of the more extreme anger at Obama is based upon his race. “
“There’s a very angry, small group of folks that just didn’t like the fact that Barack Obama won the presidency. With some, I think it is [about race]. Rep. Mike Honda (D-Calif.), chairman of the Congressional Asian Pacific American Caucus
"Some people just can't believe a black man is President and will never accept it." Maureen Dowd, NY Times columnist.
Yes, some of the Republican opposition to Obama is racist. So what? John McWhorter, writing in the New Republic
“The conjunction of a black President and a female speaker of the House — topped off by a wise Latina on the Supreme Court and a powerful gay congressional committee chairman — would sow fears of disenfranchisement among a dwindling and threatened minority in the country no matter what policies were in play.” Frank Rich, NY Times columnist.
A guest suggested that when Tea Party activists said they wanted to “take back” their country, their real motivation was to stir up anger and anxiety at having a black president, and Obama didn’t dispute the idea. He agreed that there was a “subterranean agenda” in the anti-Obama movement—a racially biased one—that was unfortunate. But he sadly conceded that there was little he could do about it. --US News
Yes, It's Racism...but it's Complicated--Joe Klein, writing in Time Magazine. http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009...#ixzz1HRj3D7pM
In that sense, Barack Obama is the apotheosis of all they fear. He is a child of what used to be called miscegenation--a mixed marriage. His father was a Muslim, his mother was sort of a hippy. She raised him in Hawaii, which is just barely American and in Indonesia (which is very suspicious). He is a liberal (even if a prohibitively moderate one). Worse, he's a completely urban sort. There is nothing resembling a log cabin in his background. We've had elite Presidents--the Roosevelts, the Bushes--but we have never really had an urban one. (New York Governor Al Smith, Tammany Hall's finest, was trounced in 1928--the last pure urban candidate.) This sort of populist paranoia is disgraceful, but as American as apple pie. --Joe Klein, writing in Time Magazine.
03-23-2011, 02:17 PM
I want to stand by that comment I made. The reason I made that comment is a warning. The reason, I don’t say those things lightly, Chris, you’ve known me for a long time. I was chairman of the Judiciary committee for 17 years or its ranking member. I teach separation of powers and constitutional law. This is something I know. So I got together and brought a group of Constitutional scholars together and write a piece I’m going to deliver to the whole United States Senate in pointing out the president has no Constitutional authority to take this nation to war against a country of 70 million people unless we’re attacked, or unless there is proof that we are about to be attacked. If he does, I would move to impeach him. The House obviously has to do that– but I would lead an effort to impeach him. The reason for my doing that- I don’t say it lightly, I don’t say it lightly.
Fortunately, Biden never went very far in politics, or did he?
03-23-2011, 03:17 PM
See Ody, oreo and wee wee like to live in a place called Denial. Wee Wee clearly showed is wanton ignorance on pretty much everything by saying that I was "projecting" that any criticism of Obama was deemed racist when that meme was being bleated by the left even during his campaign. I guess wee wee thinks that I dreamed when Obama made the comment during his campaign that people like me don't like him because he doesn't "look like the presidents on the one dollar bill". And oreo, in typical leftist fashion, is dismissing the moonbat calling of impeachment simply because supposedly no one pays any attention to those people anyway. Ah. Is that what it is? However, the left certainly fall all over themselves if someone like Alex Jones proclaims that Obama isn't a citizen. So to oreo a right wing moonbat nobody's words carries more weight than sitting congresspeople, a multi-million dollar Oscar winning documentary producer, or a consumer advocate turned presidential candidate. Speaking of fat boy Moore. Answer me this oreo, please tell me why what Michael Moore says is totally relevant to you liberals when he's making movies like Fahrenheit 9/11, Sicko, or Bowling for Columbine, however, he makes statements about impeaching a president who has a 'D' by his name and now all of a sudden no one is paying attention. Can you answer me that please?
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03-23-2011, 04:23 PM
I thought Fahrenheit 9/11 was silly (but the Bonanza thing was kind of funny) and dismissed it shortly after it started and he tried to tie a pipeline in Afghanistan to our conflict with that nation. I didn't watch either Sicko nor Bowling for Columbine. The first because, well, I really don't give a shit what Michael Moore has to say about the healthcare delivery system in the United States and the second because, well, I don't give a shit what he has to say about the 2nd Amendment either.
Hope that answers your question.
03-23-2011, 05:31 PM
So what you're saying is that you're the official spokesperson of the left? Wow. And I thought all of those people going in droves to see Moore's films was an aberration. Guess I'm right.Deplorably Proud To Be An American
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