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    Habeas corpus can be suspended for the duration, so it really doesn't matter in practical terms.
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    Freedom of speech is just that. Freedom of Speech. No one has the right to not get their feelings hurt or hear things they find disgusting. That includes me.
    I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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    The only justifiable limit the government can enforce to free speech is when what you say places the lives of others in danger - such as shouting fire in a crowded theatre.
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    As long as you are not giving aid and comfort to the enemy, which is the other Constitutional restriction on conduct in wartime, then no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    The only justifiable limit the government can enforce to free speech is when what you say places the lives of others in danger - such as showing fire in a crowded theatre.
    That would fall under arson, wouldn't it?
    I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    That would fall under arson, wouldn't it?
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    Actually, there's nothing illegal about shouting fire in a crowded theater.

    If it promotes a riot, it's a case something like disturbing the peace or inciting to riot. IOW, only state or local laws are broken. If someone is trampled to death, it's probably negligent homocide. Again, only state laws are broken.

    But it's not illegal just for shouting, and it's certainly not a violation of the US Constitution.

    Keep phishing wee wee, and hope everybody keeps their mouth shut when there is a real fire while you're watching the latest Michael Moore flac...er...flick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I fixed it. happy now?
    Somebody's gotta stand in for Linda.
    I feel that once a black fella has referred to white foks as "honky paleface devil white-trash cracker redneck Caspers," he's abdicated the right to get upset about the "N" word. But that's just me. -- Jim Goad
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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Actually, there's nothing illegal about shouting fire in a crowded theater.

    If it promotes a riot, it's a case something like disturbing the peace or inciting to riot. IOW, only state or local laws are broken. If someone is trampled to death, it's probably negligent homocide. Again, only state laws are broken.

    But it's not illegal just for shouting, and it's certainly not a violation of the US Constitution.

    Keep phishing wee wee, and hope everybody keeps their mouth shut when there is a real fire while you're watching the latest Michael Moore flac...er...flick.
    free speech would not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic. [...] The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent
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