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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    The problem is conservatives alone cannot carry an election we need to be able to appeal to center and left leaning independents. Sadly the press will smear who ever we put up - so IMO it's better to put up someone who has no visible baggage train following them already - or at least one that does not have the reputation in the press already of being stupid.
    It doesn't matter who we nominate, the left will rip into them. If there is nothing to see, they'll make it up anyway. The Conservative candidate WILL appeal to center and left center because they have seen the sewage that is liberal politics and the damage it has done to our country. No, another RINO or weak candidate will not work. Why go liberal light when you have a Socialist now?:eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    It doesn't matter who we nominate, the left will rip into them. If there is nothing to see, they'll make it up anyway. The Conservative candidate WILL appeal to center and left center because they have seen the sewage that is liberal politics and the damage it has done to our country. No, another RINO or weak candidate will not work. Why go liberal light when you have a Socialist now?:eek:
    No one is asking for a rino. I'm asking for a ARTICULATE conservatives who can make the case for conservative values the same way that Reagan did - and who does not come with a baggage train attached - that is NOT Palin or Bachmann. I have nothing against either one as a person - but they're not presidential material IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    No one is asking for a rino. I'm asking for a ARTICULATE conservatives who can make the case for conservative values the same way that Reagan did - and who does not come with a baggage train attached - that is NOT Palin or Bachmann. I have nothing against either one as a person - but they're not presidential material IMHO.
    What you do not understand when you speak of baggage is that the left wing media will make a mountain out of a molehill with any kind of minor slip up. Take the case of Meg Whitman. She did not do anything wrong. She hired a maid from an agency that was supposed to check her immigration status and then fired her after she was found to be in this country illegally. Whitman lost the race and the media painted her as a terrible person. Like I said, all candidates will have baggage. If not, the liberal media will create it out of thin air. Another good example of little baggage is the way Clarence Thomas was treated by the media in the hearings for the Supreme Court. A lying bitch dug up by Kennedy almost cost him his appointment. Don't think the Democrats and Obama will not pull out all the dirty tricks aided by the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    What you do not understand when you speak of baggage is that the left wing media will make a mountain out of a molehill with any kind of minor slip up. Take the case of Meg Whitman. She did not do anything wrong. She hired a maid from an agency that was supposed to check her immigration status and then fired her after she was found to be in this country illegally. Whitman lost the race and the media painted her as a terrible person. Like I said, all candidates will have baggage. If not, the liberal media will create it out of thin air.
    Having them create it is one thing - handing it to them ready made with all the fixings is quite another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Having them create it is one thing - handing it to them ready made with all the fixings is quite another.
    Either way it is going to be the dirtiest, nastiest campaign you have ever seen. With Palin or Bachman, the liberal media has attacked all facets of their lives. What makes you think that will not happen to someone like Cain? You better pull your bootstraps up cause the shit is going to hit the fan; this will be the mother of all dirty campaigns. You can book it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Either way it is going to be the dirtiest, nastiest campaign you have ever seen. With Palin or Bachman, the liberal media has attacked all facets of their lives. What makes you think that will not happen to someone like Cain? You better pull your bootstraps up cause the shit is going to hit the fan; this will be the mother of all dirty campaigns. You can book it.
    I don't doubt that it will be dirty - but with Cain - at least he can be articulate and is capable of thinking on his feet. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I don't doubt that it will be dirty - but with Cain - at least he can be articulate and is capable of thinking on his feet. :)
    When Cain gets some traction and starts moving up in the polls, you will see it with your own eyes and ears the smear jobs that media puts out.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    When Cain gets some traction and starts moving up in the polls, you will see it with your own eyes and ears the smear jobs that media puts out.
    I already know all about them and their smear jobs. I was around for the last election you know. The difference between Cain and Palin is that Cain is actually articulate and can communicate what he believes and answer criticism off the cuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I already know all about them and their smear jobs. I was around for the last election you know. The difference between Cain and Palin is that Cain is actually articulate and can communicate what he believes and answer criticism off the cuff.
    I will remind you off that when he makes his first faux pas. It will happen and we will see how he handles it. His candidacy is in it's infancy and there will be many bumps down the road.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    I will remind you off that when he makes his first faux pas. It will happen and we will see how he handles it. His candidacy is in it's infancy and there will be many bumps down the road.
    True. Better bumps in the road ahead than train wrecks in the road behind.
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