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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    Grant, Eisenhower, and JKF. Jeez, everybody knows this.
    Oreo knows it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    You actually believe that Grant was ever sober enough to hold a pen in his hand and write a book? I sure don't.
    you know Grants drinking problem was WAY overblown, most of it doing to wartime politics. The worst of his drinking came after the Mexican War and before civilian life when he was forced to resign from the Army
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    There's a pretty vast, gray gulf there between someone who writes every single word on his own and edits his own work and someone who just does the writing and lets someone else put their name down as the author. Because of this, I am hesitant to outright claim that Ayers is a ghost-writer for Obama, because to me, ghost-writing is the extreme later of the above. I do, however, think that Ayers had a pretty heavy hand in the writing of Dreams, and I think that Obama doesn't want anyone to know because it would wind up showing that he's not nearly as intelligent as he's portrayed to be. Many people who are paying attention already realize that he's not a very intelligent person, but a revelation about his first autobiography not being written by him would just blow the lid off of it.
    That, and because his seminal work was written by an unrepentant, ultra-leftist domestic terrorist. It would blow the lid off of his stance of moderation. Even Wei might have trouble calling him a centrist with a straight face (although he'd continue to try).
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