View Poll Results: Will you vote for either of the Pauls?

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  • Ron Paul

    5 15.15%
  • Rand Paul

    4 12.12%
  • Lets have the first father/son as president and vice president! WOOT!

    6 18.18%
  • Nah

    18 54.55%
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrthodoxPresbyterian View Post
    Will do! Just figuring out how to post new threads, but I'll post one there later tonight.

    At the moment, I have to go pick up the wife so we can get together our weekly war-gaming session with "the guys".

    So... I have a wife who enjoys playing strategy wargames with me, does that count as an interesting interest?
    Very much so, we have several gamers here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrthodoxPresbyterian View Post
    Looks to me like there's 13 Pro-Paul votes.
    Whereas there are 12 Anti-Paul votes.
    13 is more than 12.
    The Pauls are winning.

    How's my mathematical learnin' coming along now, kemosabe?
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    I'll wait for the poll that matters. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    Do you think Ron Paul has good ideas? Will you vote for him or his son Rand in the primary? if you have any concerns about them, what are they?

    http://www.ronpaul.com/

    He is an Libertarian, but he runs for office as a Republican for obvious reasons. His son is the same, and he recently became a Kentucky Senator. Though inexperienced, he is charismatic, which might be needed to beat Obama, and he has the same ideas so yea.

    If domestic policy were the only criteria, YES I would CONSIDER voting for him.

    But since his foreign policy is the equivalent of suicide, I will not .
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    If domestic policy were the only criteria, YES I would CONSIDER voting for him.

    But since his foreign policy is the equivalent of suicide, I will not .
    what's wrong with taking are military out of other countries and being a neutral country? and what's wrong with giving other countries loads of money? war and foreign aid are what's bankrupting us, not just medicare
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    what's wrong with taking are military out of other countries and being a neutral country?
    As the largest economy in the world, the US can never be just a neutral country. We will always be threatened by those who see us as either a target for plunder or an impediment to their own designs. If we retreat to our borders, the world will follow, and it will not be kind to a weakened America. Thus, we will always have the need to project power beyond our borders. Our economy requires goods from other nations and the capacity to safely export goods from our own. That means that sea lanes must be kept open, and that means a navy with the scope to project power anywhere in the world. That requires naval bases with full port facilities. Our air force has the same requirements, but doesn't need access to coastal areas for airbases. Our land forces have to have equipment pre-stocked in position in order to facilitate deployments to areas where our security is threatened.

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    and what's wrong with giving other countries loads of money? war and foreign aid are what's bankrupting us, not just medicare
    Foreign aid accounts for a minute percentage of our spending. That's not to say that we should continue it, but we should think about what we are buying with that aid. Afghanistan received over $100 million in emergency food aid in 2000. In 2001, they harbored al Qaeda after 9/11. Obviously, we did not buy their goodwill. Foreign aid should be rethought in terms of what we want to accomplish. Are America's interests really served by programs that empower people who are ideologically opposed to everything that we stand for? We should use aid to strengthen our allies and weaken our enemies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    what's wrong with taking are military out of other countries and being a neutral country? and what's wrong with giving other countries loads of money? war and foreign aid are what's bankrupting us, not just medicare
    Oh brother here we go again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    what's wrong with taking are military out of other countries and being a neutral country?
    because, you know that worked SOOOO well after World War 1
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    and what's wrong with giving other countries loads of money? war and foreign aid are what's bankrupting us, not just medicare
    most of us would LOVE to see the end of foreign aid to countries that hate us and dont use it for the reason it's given to them
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    because, you know that worked SOOOO well after World War 1
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    well that also had to do with the UN. it worked and still does work pretty well for Switzerland

    http://cominganarchy.com/2010/11/09/...utral-america/
    Last edited by jnkbortka; 06-20-2011 at 04:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    well that also had to do with the UN. it worked and still does work pretty well for Switzerland

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    Ummmm...UN came into being after WW2, not WW1. You're thinking of the failure known as the League of Nations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    Ummmm...UN came into being after WW2, not WW1. You're thinking of the failure known as the League of Nations.
    Yes i am lol
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