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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
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    Ryan plan is a start but still winds up INCREASING the debt. More cuts need to be made in all federal programs and several agencies need to be eliminated.

    Obama's plan is smoke and mirrors. He cuts 500 billion out of medicare, calls it a CUT and then transfers it to Medicaid. Government health-care is extremely inefficient and loaded with fraud and abuse. If you think Medicare is bad just wait till Obamacare is initiated in full force. Over 1000 companies have been exempted from Obamacare included Unions. Why not exempt every company? If this f.....d up plan is so good, all Federal employees should go under it including all members of the three branches of government.

    AD does not like Ryan plan because he is a partisan prick. He would rather nitpick this plan rather than state the horrible consequences of what his hero (Obama) plan will do to the country. It will include rationing, doctor shortages, doctors refusing Medicare patients, cost going thru the roof, fewer doctors going into the profession due to 15% cuts to doctor's fees. Ryan's plan may not be great but it is a hell of a lot better than that f.....d one under Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Ryan plan is a start but still winds up INCREASING the debt. More cuts need to be made in all federal programs and several agencies need to be eliminated.

    Obama's plan is smoke and mirrors. He cuts 500 billion out of medicare, calls it a CUT and then transfers it to Medicaid. Government health-care is extremely inefficient and loaded with fraud and abuse. If you think Medicare is bad just wait till Obamacare is initiated in full force. Over 1000 companies have been exempted from Obamacare included Unions. Why not exempt every company? If this f.....d up plan is so good, all Federal employees should go under it including all members of the three branches of government.

    AD does not like Ryan plan because he is a partisan prick. He would rather nitpick this plan rather than state the horrible consequences of what his hero (Obama) plan will do to the country. It will include rationing, doctor shortages, doctors refusing Medicare patients, cost going thru the roof, fewer doctors going into the profession due to 15% cuts to doctor's fees. Ryan's plan may not be great but it is a hell of a lot better than that f.....d one under Obama.
    Don't worry, you are over 54. You got yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Don't worry, you are over 54. You got yours.
    I have explained this to you before but I guess you are too dense that it has not sunk in yet. Ryan bill has no chance in the Senate ; Obamacare is law. Even someone with limited intelligence should be able to see the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I favor the HSA route, or something similar, for most. But we are talking about Medicare now. Or how we deal with healthcare for older Americans.
    favor what ever you like - healthcare is not health insurance. They are two different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    favor what ever you like - healthcare is not health insurance. They are two different things.
    Not in this country...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Not in this country...
    Oh that's bullshit and you know it.
    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

    In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Not in this country...
    yes they are
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kgnE1Xvec

    Ryan being booed by a group of seniors talking about his plan
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Smith - Wealth of Nations
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhrushchevsShoe View Post
    Not in this country...
    Bullshit. You fucktards on the left want to paint them as the same thing but any one with more than 2 braincells to rub together knows that you do not need health INSURANCE to get healthcare. I can get my broken arm set without insurance. I can get cancer treatment without insurance. Insurance is there to make it CHEAPER - but not having it cheaper does not equate to not having it accessible.
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