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    kpete (1000+ posts) Wed Apr-20-11 04:03 PM
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    REVEALED: Koch Industries Coerced Employees During The 2010 Midterm Elections

    Edited on Wed Apr-20-11 04:20 PM by kpete
    Koch Industries Coerced Employees During The 2010 Midterm Elections

    Writing today in the Nation, http://www.thenation.com/article/160062/big-brothers-th... Mark Ames and Mike Elk reveal that Koch Industries mailed a letters to 50,000 employees instructing them on who to vote for in the 2010 midterm elections. The Koch packet given to employees included candidate names, a letter from a Koch lobbyist, and a right-wing screed from the company and the Washington Examiner, an outlet owned by Phil Anschutz, a billionaire who is close to the Koch family. (View a copy of the packet here.)
    http://www.thenation.com/sites/default/files/Koch%20Vot...

    Corporate coercion of employees is perhaps the most profound repercussion from the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision last year. The Nation spoke to several law experts who noted that “Citizens United frees Koch Industries and other corporations to propagandize their employees with their political preferences.” Before the decision, businesses were prohibited from instructing their employees to vote a certain way.

    Not only was Koch active in helping push the Citizens United decision (several of the groups filing amicus briefs supporting unlimited corporate spending were funded by Koch), but Koch actively planned for exploiting the decision. When we exposed a memo outlining the 2010 secret Koch political strategy meeting with fellow right-wing donors, we noted that the summit included a presentation from Karl Crow. Crow is a Koch operative who had penned a memo calling for corporations to exploit Citizens United and aggressively use “employees, vendors, and customers” as tools for advancing business interests in the political sphere:

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    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/20/koch-coerced-employ... /
    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=439x929605

    Funny how the DUers are up in arms about this but have no problem with union officials regularly telling their members who to vote for.
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    I stopped reading right there. Anything they put out is a lie IMHO.

    This is the same "magazine" that routinely runs Taliban propaganda in the form of "press releses" with no caveats or notes from the editor that there is no way to verifuy their claims.

    Whatever they say about the Koch brothers is more likely the polar opposite of whats in that fish wrap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    I stopped reading right there. Anything they put out is a lie IMHO.

    This is the same "magazine" that routinely runs Taliban propaganda in the form of "press releses" with no caveats or notes from the editor that there is no way to verifuy their claims.

    Whatever they say about the Koch brothers is more likely the polar opposite of whats in that fish wrap.
    Well, I didn't point out the fact that I work as an independent contractor for Georgia Pacific, which is a division of Koch, and I did not receive any materials that tried to influence my vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyackog View Post
    http://www.democraticunderground.com...ess=439x929605

    Funny how the DUers are up in arms about this but have no problem with union officials regularly telling their members who to vote for.
    Not to mention that the DU not that long ago were bragging how in the Wisconsin SC election how teachers were telling their students how to vote. But, as long as it supports their ideology it's OK. That said, suggesting how someone votes and "coercing" them is a big difference. Unless this memo included the threat of termination there is no coercion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyackog View Post
    Well, I didn't point out the fact that I work as an independent contractor for Georgia Pacific, which is a division of Koch, and I did not receive any materials that tried to influence my vote.
    That wasn't in any way a condemnation of you pya...I was criticizing the DUmmies source for the story. :D


    But I am glad to see that your blood money funded paycheck from Evil Personified didn't in any way sway who you voted for! :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Not to mention that the DU not that long ago were bragging how in the Wisconsin SC election how teachers were telling their students how to vote. But, as long as it supports their ideology it's OK. That said, suggesting how someone votes and "coercing" them is a big difference. Unless this memo included the threat of termination there is no coercion.
    It wasn't just then. The whole email thing put out by the IRRC National Federation of Teachers to have their memebrs "wear blue" on election day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    That wasn't in any way a condemnation of you pya...I was criticizing the DUmmies source for the story. :D


    But I am glad to see that your blood money funded paycheck from Evil Personified didn't in any way sway who you voted for! :p
    I didn't take it as a condemnation. I was just pointing out that your mistrust of The Nation was well founded...in addition to the DUmmies being hypocrites. :D

    And I have to admit, working for the Boogeymen is kinda fun. My mom, the socialist, is in a complete confusion over whether to chastise me for working for them or for accepting their sizable paychecks to care for her grandkids, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyackog View Post
    And I have to admit, working for the Boogeymen is kinda fun. My mom, the socialist, is in a complete confusion over whether to chastise me for working for them or for accepting their sizable paychecks to care for her grandkids, lol.

    LOL! Look at us evil conservatives. We're a DUmmies nightmare.

    You work for a subsidiary of Evil Personafied, Inc.

    And my childhood was bought and paid for by Big Oil, Ltd. LLC

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    Harry Reid and casinos during the last mid-terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    LOL! Look at us evil conservatives. We're a DUmmies nightmare.

    You work for a subsidiary of Evil Personafied, Inc.

    And my childhood was bought and paid for by Big Oil, Ltd. LLC

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    Sweet! My childhood was bought and paid for by the defense industry! EVIL!!!!! :eek:
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