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  1. #1 Why Trump should drop the "birther" issue...... 
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    This is a follow up to two prior posts on the attempt by the mainstream media and left-blogosphere to frame the issue of Obama's constitutional qualification to be President as rooted in racism. Obama is being challenged, the argument goes, only because he is not white.

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    At this point, it's a non-starter relative to 2012. Obama relishes it because it serves as a distraction from his failures as a president.

    Until Trump drops it as an issue, he can't be considered a serious candidate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Why Trump should drop the "birther" issue......
    Because it's dumber than fuck, that's why.

    Matters not any more. He has single-handedly taken himself out of the race. He blew it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    Because it's dumber than fuck, that's why.

    Matters not any more. He has single-handedly taken himself out of the race. He blew it.
    Trump? how? he's leading in or near the top in many polls, he hasn't taken himself out, he's said he wont announce either way until the end of next month
     

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    obviously trump was never supposed to be a serious candidate.

    his function is to appeal to the crazy right wing birthers and to appear on fox news every 12 minutes.

    he isn't a serious candidate, he's a clown that the birthers and crazies can rally around. the republicans are going to nominate a "moderate" republican, that is just a fact. the base won't be happy, but that's where Trump, Beck, Palin, and the rest come into the picture - they lend their support to whoever the establishment candidate is.

    this way, the republicans can still run someone like mccain or romney, and use trump and palin to round up the base. the base will say "oh the candidate is just A RINO!!", but as long as Trump and others keep scaring them with KENYAN SOCIALIST, they will vote the way they are supposed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    obviously trump was never supposed to be a serious candidate.

    his function is to appeal to the crazy right wing birthers and to appear on fox news every 12 minutes.

    he isn't a serious candidate, he's a clown that the birthers and crazies can rally around. the republicans are going to nominate a "moderate" republican, that is just a fact. the base won't be happy, but that's where Trump, Beck, Palin, and the rest come into the picture - they lend their support to whoever the establishment candidate is.

    this way, the republicans can still run someone like mccain or romney, and use trump and palin to round up the base. the base will say "oh the candidate is just A RINO!!", but as long as Trump and others keep scaring them with KENYAN SOCIALIST, they will vote the way they are supposed to.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    Trump? how? he's leading in or near the top in many polls, he hasn't taken himself out, he's said he wont announce either way until the end of next month
    Polls won't mean crap until the summer of '12. And it doesn't look like he'll do very well in Iowa judging from some of the comments made by Republicans there.

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    Although some state Republican Party leaders have welcomed the attention Trump's presidential ideas have brought to the 2012 race and look forward to a giant fundraising dinner he will keynote in June, they also express skepticism about him as a candidate that borders on contempt.

    "'The Donald' will be wherever the cameras are, and nowhere else," said Doug Gross, a Des Moines Republican and longtime confidant of GOP Gov. Terry Branstad.

    If he seeks the Republican nomination, Gross and others said, Trump would probably want to bypass the up-close campaigning and the behind-the-scenes meetings with local party activists that the Iowa caucus electorate expects from serious presidential contenders.

    "I don't think he's prepared at all for what it means to run in the caucuses in Iowa," said Sac County Republican Chairwoman Ann Trimble-Ray, a consultant to Iowa Republican Rep. Steve King and a leading party activist in GOP-heavy western Iowa. "I think that's going to shock the socks off this guy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.co...d-zakaria.htmlAt this point, it's a non-starter relative to 2012. Obama relishes it because it serves as a distraction from his failures as a president.

    Until Trump drops it as an issue, he can't be considered a serious candidate.
    even if he does drop it he can't be considered a serious candidate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Polls won't mean crap until the summer of '12. And it doesn't look like he'll do very well in Iowa judging from some of the comments made by Republicans there.

    Source.
    I know that they don't mean a lot right now as a majority of it is based solely on name recognition, however I still think he's going to run and is serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Until Trump drops it as an issue, he can't be considered a serious candidate.
    I don't think he even intends to run.

    Trump is known for this style of insane controversy. Remember his fight with Rosie O'Donnell?

    Trump likes controversy. It garners attention and publicity. It makes people want to pay more attention to him, to tune in to his show.

    I just don't see him running. I do see him stirring the pot so to speak but thats it.
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