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  1. #1 Mitch Daniels sounds fiscal alarm, but Indiana Republican hesitant to run in 2012 
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    Mitch Daniels sounds fiscal alarm, but Indiana Republican hesitant to run in 2012

    No prospective Republican presidential candidate has done more to highlight the issue of debt and deficits than Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels. He calls it the “new red menace,” an ocean of red ink that he says is every bit as dangerous as the Soviet nuclear threat during the Cold War.

    His call to arms gives him a provocative though politically risky platform for a potential 2012 presidential candidacy. Daniels thinks dealing with the debt problem will require a potentially dramatic restructuring of Medicare for future recipients, revamping Medicaid to slow its spending, and altering Social Security for today’s younger workers by raising the retirement age and recalculating the cost-of-living formula.

    What Daniels has long been advocating dovetails with the budget blueprint recently unveiled by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.). His entry into the race could ensure that a debate between President Obama and Ryan becomes a central issue of the 2012 campaign. More than any other potential candidate, Daniels would test whether voters are ready for the kind of stiff medicine he prescribes.

    But Daniels also would challenge his own party, with a message that calls for focusing on fiscal issues over social ones, for appealing seriously to voters who are not part of the conservative coalition and for being prepared to compromise with Democrats to solve the debt problem.

    As he put it in a speech this year: “Should the best way be blocked . . . then someone will need to find the second-best way. Or the third, because the nation’s survival requires it. Purity in martyrdom is for suicide bombers.”

    This guy doesn't stand a chance of getting the nomination in 2012. He is way to rational to get by the so-called Tea Party and this is their year.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    This guy doesn't stand a chance of getting the nomination in 2012. He is way to rational to get by the so-called Tea Party and this is their year.


    As a social and fiscal conservative, I would fully support him him if he is the nominee and I suspect that every Tea Party person I know would be too if only to stop the fiscal trainwreck Obama has put us on.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    This guy doesn't stand a chance of getting the nomination in 2012. He is way to rational to get by the so-called Tea Party and this is their year.
    That's really quite a statement! Is every liberal this ill-informed or are you just unique? It's not the Tea Party I see standing in the way of candidates who are fiscally sane, or have ideas about the debt. It's the religious right I see standing in the way of these candidates. I can see the religious right abandoning candidates with good fiscal positions for the sake of their stance on gay marriage, abortion, drugs, etc, while embracing candidates big on the social agenda with little care for fiscal sanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainMan View Post


    As a social and fiscal conservative, I would fully support him him if he is the nominee and I suspect that every Tea Party person I know would be too if only to stop the fiscal trainwreck Obama has put us on.
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    I support Daniels, have for a while.

    Mark Levin has a problem with him, Rush didn't like his pussy footing around the social issue, but I know why Daniels made the comments, so I don't care.

    Most people are back and forth on him, but they would back him before Trump.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by malloc View Post
    That's really quite a statement! Is every liberal this ill-informed or are you just unique? It's not the Tea Party I see standing in the way of candidates who are fiscally sane, or have ideas about the debt. It's the religious right I see standing in the way of these candidates. I can see the religious right abandoning candidates with good fiscal positions for the sake of their stance on gay marriage, abortion, drugs, etc, while embracing candidates big on the social agenda with little care for fiscal sanity.
    I consider myself both a Tea Party member AND a member of the Religious right and I have NO ISSUE with Daniels whatsoever.

    It is only the kook fringe like Mikey who have a real problem with Daniels. Levin (I am pretty sure) agrees with Daniel's positions, but disagrees on whether or not forcefully making an issue on the social policies is a good move politically.


    Daniels would vote right, he just doesn't think the social issues are a good platform to run on and attract independents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainMan View Post


    As a social and fiscal conservative, I would fully support him him if he is the nominee and I suspect that every Tea Party person I know would be too if only to stop the fiscal trainwreck Obama has put us on.
    Yeah... :D But for looks, I'd go for Paul Ryan. . . it's the Reagan hair.

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    I would hope it goes without saying that we'd support Daniels before Trump; Trump is a circus sideshow, not a candidate. And now ol'Haley's taken himself out of the running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MountainMan View Post


    As a social and fiscal conservative, I would fully support him him if he is the nominee and I suspect that every Tea Party person I know would be too if only to stop the fiscal trainwreck Obama has put us on.
    You aren't a member of the so-called Tea Party, M10M. I would expect you to support him and be surprised if you didn't.

    And I am not talking about the general election (which I believe he could win) but the Republican Party nomination.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    You aren't a member of the so-called Tea Party, M10M. I would expect you to support him and be surprised if you didn't.

    And I am not talking about the general election (which I believe he could win) but the Republican Party nomination.
    The "so-called Tea Party" in your head, doesn't exist.
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