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    AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
    Published: 28 Apr 2011


    SEOUL - North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il says he is willing to hold talks with the United States and South Korea, including a summit with the South's leader, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said April 28.

    Carter was speaking on his return from a visit with three other retired world leaders to Pyongyang, a mission aimed at easing high inter-Korean tensions, assessing food shortages and encouraging nuclear disarmament.

    The ex-leaders said the shortages amount to a crisis, and Carter accused the U.S. and South Korea of a "human rights violation" for, in his view, withholding food aid from the North for political reasons.

    The delegation did not meet Kim during its three-day stay in the isolated communist state, but Carter said Kim's offer of talks was made earlier Thursday in Pyongyang in a "personal message" read by an official.

    Kim "sent word that he and the people of North Korea are willing to negotiate with South Korea or the United States or (the other powers involved in six-party nuclear disarmament talks) on any subject at any time without preconditions", Carter said.

    "He specifically told us that he was prepared for a summit with (South Korean) President Lee Myung-Bak at any time to discuss any subject directly between the two heads of state."

    Carter was accompanied by former Finnish president Martti Ahtisaari, ex-Norwegian prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland and former Irish president Mary Robinson.

    Robinson described food shortages as "extremely serious" after an exceptionally cold winter, floods and an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease.

    The failure of the United States and South Korea to provide the food aid they previously supplied had aggravated the situation, she said.

    The Elders Group urged South Korea, the European Union and the United States to "realize that there is a very serious crisis," Robinson said.

    Bruntland, a former World Health Organization chief, said one-third of North Korea's children are growing up stunted because of their poor diet.

    Carter said one of the most important human rights was access to food.

    "For America and South Korea deliberately to withhold food aid to North Korea because of unrelated political issues is really a human rights violation," he said.

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    Obviously. Many times over.

    Anyone who isn't a pure jingoist knows this.

    Even Robert McNamara admitted that if we had lost WWII, that the top commanders and others would have been charged with war crimes.

    Every major imperialist power is guilty of this. That doesn't make it right, but denying our own history is stupid.

    That's not even considering the human rights violations of the people we support financially and militarily.
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    so you are cool with deliberately starving populations of civilians for political reasons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Obviously. Many times over.

    Anyone who isn't a pure jingoist knows this.

    Even Robert McNamara admitted that if we had lost WWII, that the top commanders and others would have been charged with war crimes.

    Every major imperialist power is guilty of this. That doesn't make it right, but denying our own history is stupid.

    That's not even considering the human rights violations of the people we support financially and militarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    so you are cool with deliberately starving populations of civilians for political reasons?
    I love how you rationalize things. Kim jong Il is killing his people with his policies and because we don't give him hand outs - we're starving his people. Seriously dude. Do the world a favor and drink your juice.

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    boohoo baby can't accept that his country isn't a perfect idealistic paradise with a squeaky clean history

    of course we're guilty of atrocious human rights violations

    hell, the first half of our nations history was basically a long series of crimes against humanity, genocide, ethnic cleansing, slavery, and so on
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    I love how you rationalize things. Kim jong Il is killing his people with his policies and because we don't give him hand outs - we're starving his people. Seriously dude. Do the world a favor and drink your juice.

    LoL! poor little Wee Wee.

    Never mind the fact that ANY food aid we send goes straight to the party elite and not to the people that need it.

    Wee Wee is here...like Carter...to defend any Communist thug the world over against the big mean old U.S.



    And Communist tools like Wee Wee wonder why we question their loyalty...to the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    boohoo baby can't accept that his country isn't a perfect idealistic paradise with a squeaky clean history

    of course we're guilty of atrocious human rights violations

    hell, the first half of our nations history was basically a long series of crimes against humanity, genocide, ethnic cleansing, slavery, and so on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    of course we're guilty of atrocious human rights violations
    It is a shame we are not cause we would line up liberal anti-American pricks and shoot their ass.:p
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    um...Carter went to a place where the people believe that their pipsqueak dictator is some kinda god that doesn't even need to defecate, and preaches to them that the US and South Korea are the problem and not that their government is run by a dude with a Napoleon complex.

    the fuckstain can stay there in his Communist paradise
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