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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Has anyone shared this at the DU yet? :)
    Oh, yes. And they are going berserk over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    OMG. That thread is awesome. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by jendf View Post
    OMG. That thread is awesome. :D
    If those same kids were to go stand by a business holding signs that said "Labor Unions Rule" or "Three cheers for Obama," they would suddenly be the smartest kids on earth.
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    In actual dollars, President Obama’s $4.4 trillion in deficit spending in just three years is 37 percent higher than the previous record of $3.2 trillion (held by President George W. Bush) in deficit spending for an entire presidency. It’s no small feat to demolish an 8-year record in just 3 years.

    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    What I've acknowledged is that there is a bigger problem than I thought with many Muslims wanting to enforce or bring Sharia law and that Muslims who speak up against it could end up dead. I also realized there was more people than I knew who would be stupid enough to consider giving them their own jurisdiction.
    Isn't that what I said?

    Quote Originally Posted by jendf View Post
    OMG. That thread is awesome. :D
    Awful, really. The highlights:

    luvspeas (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 12:17 PM
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    10. The opinions of a bunch of self-absorbed teenagers really means a lot to me...
    NOT
    "NOT"? Isn't that something a self-absorbed teen would say? I guess that you can age someone past their teen years, but adolescence can be sustained forever, or at least until your seventh or eight year of college.
    ocd liberal (304 posts) Thu May-05-11 12:24 PM
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    13. Oh, please!
    He just sat there because that is what he was told to do when the magic words "America is under attack" were whispered in his ear.
    I am sure he was coached to do exactly what he did. I mean, if "AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK" was whispered into any of OUR ears and we were in a classroom full of children, wouldn't we first try to protect the children? Get information? Bush KNEW.
    First Truther comment, with nothing remotely resembling a rebuttal. Can you imagine what the response would be to a birther?
    Fozzledick (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 12:38 PM
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    21. Three observations on Bush's behavior on 9/11
    1. He didn't act surprised because he knew in advance what was going to happen.

    2. He didn't order any action to be taken because the decision had already been made to let it happen.

    3. He then ran away and hid in a bomb shelter on the other side of the continent, one of the most astonishing acts of cowardice in human history, and bragged to the country that HE was safe.
    Second Truther statement. Again, no rebuttal. On CU, when someone makes a birther comment, it usually leads to several posts countering the argument. Sometimes it completely hijacks the thread. But at DU, nada. No wonder Bush didn't want to appear onstage with the leader of these idiots.
    spedtr90 (183 posts) Thu May-05-11 01:22 PM
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    23. Thanks, George, for not doing your job as president....
    at a time when is was possible even more lives were at risk, rather than confuse and frighten some kids who had teachers who cared about them right there to take over. In reality you must have realized you didn't have the social skills to stand up, thank the kids for reading for you,tell them how well they did, and tell them you had to leave to take care of something important, without scaring them to death. Because you're an idiot.
    And you're a genius?
    LynneSin (1000+ posts) Thu May-05-11 02:16 PM
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    27. their 'happiness' probably cost more lives
    Since had Bush calmly left the reading and then did his damn job, we may have prevented 1 or 2 of the plans from hitting their intended targets.
    Oh, the stupid is very strong with this one. Let's look at the timeline:

    8:46:40: Flight 11 crashes at roughly 466 mph (790km/h or 219m/s or 425 knots) into the north face of the North Tower (1 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 93 and 99. (Many early accounts gave times between 8:45 and 8:50).

    8:55: President George W. Bush is at Emma E. Booker Elementary School in Sarasota, Florida as part of a scheduled visit to promote education when presidential advisor Karl Rove, who is with Bush, informs him that a small twin-engine plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. Before entering the classroom, the President speaks to National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, who is at the White House. She first tells him it was a twin-engine aircraft—and then a commercial aircraft—that had struck the World Trade Center, adding “that’s all we know right now, Mr. President.”

    9:03:02: Flight 175 crashes at about 590 mph (950 km/h) into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, banked between floors 77 and 85.[8] By this time, several media organizations, including the three major broadcast networks (who have interrupted their morning shows), are covering the first plane crash—millions see the impact live. Parts of the plane leave the building from its east and north sides, falling to the ground six blocks away.

    9:05: After brief introductions to the Booker elementary students, President Bush is about to begin reading The Pet Goat with the students when Chief of Staff Andrew Card interrupts to whisper to the president, "A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack." The president stated later that he decided to continue the lesson rather than alarm the students.

    9:14: President Bush returned to a holding room commandeered by the Secret Service shortly before 9:15. The holding room contains a telephone, a television showing the news coverage, and several senior staff members. The president speaks to Vice President Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, New York Governor George Pataki, and FBI Director Robert Mueller, and prepares brief remarks.

    9:28: Hijackers storm the cockpit on Flight 93 and take over the flight. The entry of the hijackers is overheard by flight controllers at Cleveland.

    9:29: President Bush makes his first public statements about the attacks, in front of an audience of about 200 teachers and students at the elementary school. He states that he will be going back to Washington, that "we've had a national tragedy", and leads a moment of silence. No one in the President's traveling party has any information during this time that other aircraft were hijacked or missing.

    9:35: The President's motorcade departs from the elementary school, bound for Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport and Air Force One.

    9:35: Based on a report that Flight 77 had turned again and was circling back toward the District of Columbia, the Secret Service orders the immediate evacuation of the Vice President from the White House.

    9:37: Vice President Cheney enters an underground tunnel leading to a security bunker.

    9:37:46: Flight 77 crashes into the western side of the Pentagon and starts a violent fire. The section of the Pentagon hit consists mainly of newly renovated, unoccupied offices. All 64 people on board are killed, as are 125 Pentagon personnel.

    9:43: The White House and the Capitol are evacuated and closed.

    9:45: United States airspace is shut down. No civilian aircraft are allowed to take off, and all aircraft in flight are ordered to land at the nearest airport as soon as possible. All international flights headed for the U.S. are redirected to Canada and Mexico. Transport Canada, Canada's transportation agency, also closes down its airspace. The FAA announces that civilian flights are suspended until at least noon September 12, while Transport Canada gives similar orders, but until further notice, to take in diverted U.S.-bound international flights, launching the agency's "Operation Yellow Ribbon". The groundings last until September 14.

    9:55: Air Force One leaves Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport.

    9:57: Passenger revolt begins on Flight 93.

    9:57: President Bush leaves Sarasota, Florida, on Air Force One. The plane reaches cruising altitude and circles for approximately 40 minutes while the destination of the plane is discussed.

    10:03:11: United Airlines Flight 93 is crashed by its hijackers and passengers, due to fighting in the cockpit 80 miles (129 km) southeast of Pittsburgh in Somerset County, Pennsylvania. Later reports indicate that passengers had learned about the World Trade Center and Pentagon crashes on cell phones and at least three were planning on resisting the hijackers; the resistance was confirmed by Flight 93's cockpit voice recording, on which the hijackers are heard making their decision to down the plane before the passengers succeed in breaching the cockpit door. The 9/11 Commission believed that Flight 93's target was either the United States Capitol building or the White House in Washington, D.C.
    So, Bush was informed of what might have been an accident, the first plane hitting the WTC, then informed of the second plane hitting the WTC at 9:05, and he was in a room that the Secret Service had to find and secure by 9:14. The delay of less than nine minutes prevented Bush from... what? Preventing the crash of Flight 77 into the Pentagon? The plane was already under the control of the hijackers when he was informed of the second plane hitting the WTC. Preventing the hijacking of Flight 93? The plane was already in the air with the terrorists on board. What does this idiot think that Bush could have done? He was en route to AF1 when the last plane was hijacked. Even if he'd dropped the book, ordered the Secret Service to saddle up and move out, he'd still have been too late to do anything. These people are morons.:mad:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    These people are morons.:mad:
    Yeah, we know. They watch too much television, no clue that you can't save the world in 30 minutes or less.
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    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    22 minutes after he had been informed that a second plane had been hit, the Pentagon was struck.

    Had he immediately ordered to have fighters scrambled to intercept any further aircraft... there is a good chance that word may not have even made it to the Wing responsible for the action by that point, let alone gotten pilots into their aircraft, the aircraft fueled up, weapons loaded, aircraft off the ground, had them find their targets, obtained permission to fire, and then actually done the deed.

    But... truthers don't care. Facts don't matter to these dumb shits.
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    Isn't that what I said?



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    This is awful. I'd like to slap the shit out of some of these people. How dare these people blame children for people dying. First of all, getting up and scaring them to death would not have prevented targets from being hit. It was already in process. :(

    I'm sure if Obama was in a DU room reading a goose story and stayed, it would have been okay with DUers.

    On rare occasion, DU makes me sick. The man is no longer the President. Stop using anybody (including kids) for your Bush hating desires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    This is awful. I'd like to slap the shit out of some of these people. How dare these people blame children for people dying. First of all, getting up and scaring them to death would not have prevented targets from being hit. It was already in process. :(

    I'm sure if Obama was in a DU room reading a goose story and stayed, it would have been okay with DUers.

    On rare occasion, DU makes me sick. The man is no longer the President. Stop using anybody (including kids) for your Bush hating desires.
    Lanie they only say that to kids who don't agree with their hive mentality. Don't you see that?

    You need to look no farther than the fawning the entire place did over Ava and how she was called a genius and intelligent and all the other compliments the left and especially DU lauds a child with that agrees with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    22 minutes after he had been informed that a second plane had been hit, the Pentagon was struck.

    Had he immediately ordered to have fighters scrambled to intercept any further aircraft... there is a good chance that word may not have even made it to the Wing responsible for the action by that point, let alone gotten pilots into their aircraft, the aircraft fueled up, weapons loaded, aircraft off the ground, had them find their targets, obtained permission to fire, and then actually done the deed.

    But... truthers don't care. Facts don't matter to these dumb shits.
    The protocols that scrambled the planes were already in place. Bush would have been ordering the Air Force to do what it was already supposed to be doing. The CIC is not going to be giving orders directly to pilots, bypassing their chain of command, so anything that he said would have had to filter down through channels, which would have made those orders OBE by the time the pilots got them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    This is awful. I'd like to slap the shit out of some of these people. How dare these people blame children for people dying. First of all, getting up and scaring them to death would not have prevented targets from being hit. It was already in process. :(

    I'm sure if Obama was in a DU room reading a goose story and stayed, it would have been okay with DUers.

    On rare occasion, DU makes me sick. The man is no longer the President. Stop using anybody (including kids) for your Bush hating desires.
    DU exists so that leftists can talk to like-minded people and avoid annoying the sane.
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    Lanie they only say that to kids who don't agree with their hive mentality. Don't you see that?

    You need to look no farther than the fawning the entire place did over Ava and how she was called a genius and intelligent and all the other compliments the left and especially DU lauds a child with that agrees with them.
    W.E.B Griffin wrote in several of his books that the test of intelligence is how much someone agrees with the highest ranking person in the room, a phrase that he always put in the mouth of the highest ranking person in the room, and which was always delivered with a smile. In this case, the DUmmies are taking it at face value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    W.E.B Griffin wrote in several of his books that the test of intelligence is how much someone agrees with the highest ranking person in the room, a phrase that he always put in the mouth of the highest ranking person in the room, and which was always delivered with a smile. In this case, the DUmmies are taking it at face value.
    Yup. It's an oft repeated phrase by BG Flem Pickering all through "The Corps" series.
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