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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    It would seem they use that forum for news stories concerning the 2012 election, I have seen Ginger move this type thread from there to GD. If she wants it there she will move it in the morning.
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    Palin and Trump won't even win the primaries. It's going to be somebody with a little bit less attention. Maybe Romney?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
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    Palin and Trump won't even win the primaries. It's going to be somebody with a little bit less attention. Maybe Romney?
    Palin and Trump won't even enter the primaries.


    I think Cain is the one to watch. I suspect he's going places quickly. Who rounds out that ticket? I like Paul Ryan, but right now he needs to be leading the charge in the House. Boner sure as hell isn't. If Chrstie could be drafted for VP, that would be a truly awesome ticket, but I don't think Christie wants it. He's been pretty firm about not running, though he might be convinced to come on as VP.

    Maybe Pawlenty? Not sure about him. He doesn't seem to be creating any appeal anywhere, and he might just be a drag on the ticket. I wonder if Barbour could be drafted into VP. He's got the political acumen that Cain lacks; could be a huge asset in navigating both K Street and Constitution Avenue.

    I could tolerate Romney at the bottom of a Cain ticket, but I wouldn't be happy about it. Like it or not, he does bring some votes out of sheer charisma and good looks. I just wouldn't want him anywhere near the policy controls; he'd have to convince me that he'd be a good boy and do as he's told.



    My feelings wouldn't be hurt at all if Cain drew Marsha Blackburn out of the House. I was hoping Marsha would run for governor this last time, because she would have won it handily and it would have put her in the catbird seat for 2016 on Pennsylvania Avenue, but she decided to stay put in the House, and probably that was the best decision, given what's been going on up there. But if she gets plucked for VP, she has an incredibly solid Republican seat, and these are conservative Republicans, so they're not likely to put some RINO in her place if she goes. Her district remains pretty safe, too, as I understand it. She makes a good bridge between the "old" GOP and the TEA Party wing. She could be a very valuable asset on a ticket. A solid Southern ticket doesn't hurt, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    Palin and Trump won't even enter the primaries.


    I think Cain is the one to watch. I suspect he's going places quickly. Who rounds out that ticket? I like Paul Ryan, but right now he needs to be leading the charge in the House. Boner sure as hell isn't. If Chrstie could be drafted for VP, that would be a truly awesome ticket, but I don't think Christie wants it. He's been pretty firm about not running, though he might be convinced to come on as VP.

    Maybe Pawlenty? Not sure about him. He doesn't seem to be creating any appeal anywhere, and he might just be a drag on the ticket. I wonder if Barbour could be drafted into VP. He's got the political acumen that Cain lacks; could be a huge asset in navigating both K Street and Constitution Avenue.

    I could tolerate Romney at the bottom of a Cain ticket, but I wouldn't be happy about it. Like it or not, he does bring some votes out of sheer charisma and good looks. I just wouldn't want him anywhere near the policy controls; he'd have to convince me that he'd be a good boy and do as he's told.



    My feelings wouldn't be hurt at all if Cain drew Marsha Blackburn out of the House. I was hoping Marsha would run for governor this last time, because she would have won it handily and it would have put her in the catbird seat for 2016 on Pennsylvania Avenue, but she decided to stay put in the House, and probably that was the best decision, given what's been going on up there. But if she gets plucked for VP, she has an incredibly solid Republican seat, and these are conservative Republicans, so they're not likely to put some RINO in her place if she goes. Her district remains pretty safe, too, as I understand it. She makes a good bridge between the "old" GOP and the TEA Party wing. She could be a very valuable asset on a ticket. A solid Southern ticket doesn't hurt, either.
    You started out right! Cain has said what needs to be said! I know he is a big FairTax guy, bonus for that!

    Cain / Christie!!!

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    Palin will enter the primaries and win the nomination and the Presidency. Palin can run circles around any R or D on energy, and her plan to create million of good paying in the oil industry triumphs any other vague ideas I have heard from other candidates.

    Obama and Boehner have stated they want to repeal 2 billion in subsidies that the oil companies receive. That will make the price of oil go down. Right. If idiot Repubs want to pass this, why not take subsidies away from all commodities like Ethanol. When Ethanol producers go out of business because they can not compete in the free market then the price of oil will go down and the government will save billions. Imports of Ethanol from Brazil will go down to zero and that will reduce our balance of payments. This stupidity has caused the price of corn to go up 100% in the last year. So take the subsidies away from them. As an added benefit, the price of corn will go down, and millions will not starve in 3rd world countries because of the high cost of food. I am beginning to think that many Republicans don't have shit for brains because they will support a lying flip flopping POS like Romney.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
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    Palin and Trump won't even win the primaries. It's going to be somebody with a little bit less attention. Maybe Romney?
    Romney has massive baggage from his imposition of a health care plan in Massachussetts. He will have to explain why he opposes Obamacare but imposed Romneycare, which has already exceeded its initial budgetary estimates and is now on the road to insolvency.
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    I believe Mitch Daniels is the only Republican who is either running, or might run, that has a chance to beat Obama. Huntsman is someone to watch, though.

    I think Perry, Bush, and Thune would have a shot but they are not going to run. Christie is just the latest Fred Thompson. I don't think he will be convinced to enter the race and he needs four years to work off the Taft before jumping in.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I believe Mitch Daniels is the only Republican who is either running, or might run, that has a chance to beat Obama. Huntsman is someone to watch, though.

    I think Perry, Bush, and Thune would have a shot but they are not going to run. Christie is just the latest Fred Thompson. I don't think he will be convinced to enter the race and he needs four years to work off the Taft before jumping in.
    how can Christie be a Thompson when he's said that he's not running? you're stuck on a guy who's not going to run.

    Cain can beat Obama
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    how can Christie be a Thompson when he's said that he's not running? you're stuck on a guy who's not going to run.
    I meant in terms of people wanting him to run. Fred Thompson was "convinced" to get in the race.

    Cain can beat Obama
    I don't know that much about him but if his thing is the so-called Fair Tax, he hasn't got a chance.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Romney has massive baggage from his imposition of a health care plan in Massachussetts. He will have to explain why he opposes Obamacare but imposed Romneycare, which has already exceeded its initial budgetary estimates and is now on the road to insolvency.
    If Romney was smart he would do 2 things regarding the plan put in place while he was governor.
    1) Go on the offense that this was a states rights issue, not a federal one. The feds are not chartered by the Constitution to enact national health care policy, nor is it prohibited by the states in the Constitution.
    AS a governor, he had the authority. As a Federally elected official, he doesn't.

    2) This is the hard part. ADMIT YOU MADE A BIG FUCKING MISTAKE!!! Point out in every way how what was done in Massachusetts has failed or not met expectations and use that ammo to explain why trying at a federal level would be worse by magnitudes of order. We tried, we failed. Trying on a larger scale will only result in a larger failure.
     

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