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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    You allow the illegals to take their children with them.
    their parents and also the children themselves are not allowed to renounce their US citizenship. if they are born in America, they are US citizens. the parents cannot change this and the children cannot change this until they become of age.





    Actually that's according to a court ruling, not according to the US constitution. The 14th Amendment was not intended to make the children of illegal aliens or tourists US citizens. The fact that John McCain is a natural born US citizen makes this quite clear.
    The supreme court has already ruled on this. children born in the US are US citizens, they cannot have their citizenship revoked because of the crimes of their parents.

    if we can punish people for the crimes of their ancestors then this opens up a whole new argument for Slave Reparations
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    I say a fleet of new low rider buses with nice wheels and custom paint, they can keep the buses when we are done hauling them back. Hand them applications for visas as they get off the bus and tell them no hard feelings for breaking in in the first place, they will be home in Mexico with amnesty. Everybody wins!:)

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    America and Mexico have an extremely strong trade relationship. If America is serious about addressing our illegal immigration problem, we should pressure Mexico to improve their domestic economic conditions, so that the people there aren't so desperate to have to cross the border illegally.

    We have economic influence, we should use it. It would help the people of Mexico, and it would help secure our borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    America and Mexico have an extremely strong trade relationship. If America is serious about addressing our illegal immigration problem, we should pressure Mexico to improve their domestic economic conditions, so that the people there aren't so desperate to have to cross the border illegally.

    We have economic influence, we should use it. It would help the people of Mexico, and it would help secure our borders.
    I agree with that fully, they have a very serious corruption problem that saps there resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Send them all home and they can apply for our legal path to citizenship.
    That makes sense but what about their babies ?Some were born of American fathers and Mexican mothers,how can we send them to Mexico ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I agree with that fully, they have a very serious corruption problem that saps there resources.
    Yes they do.

    I think America ignores their corruption because for so long they have provided us with a source of cheap labor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    almost perfect.

    you just need some green LED lights on the bottom :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by megimoo View Post
    That makes sense but what about their babies ?Some were born of American fathers and Mexican mothers,how can we send them to Mexico ?
    There should be no reason that a child born here to illegals would have automatic citizenship. If a vacationer comes here from France and gives birth while they are visiting legally is the child an American citizen?
    There is something wrong with a law that gives the babies of legals citizenship.
    They can go home with their parents and come back when they are of legal age if we must continue this silly practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    There should be no reason that a child born here to illegals would have automatic citizenship. If a vacationer comes here from France and gives birth while they are visiting legally is the child an American citizen?
    There is something wrong with a law that gives the babies of legals citizenship.
    They can go home with their parents and come back when they are of legal age if we must continue this silly practice.
    What is wrong with giving babies of illegals citizenship/

    Think about what you are saying, you are claiming that a child should be punished because of the crimes of their parents. That opens up a HUGE hornets nest of problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Yes they do.

    I think America ignores their corruption because for so long they have provided us with a source of cheap labor.
    There is a lot of truth to this,.
    Mexico is a beautiful place with abundant resources and hard working people, there is no reason why the government could not be changed to allow them to prosper, If Mexico were a just and free country we wouldn't have this problem, people from both sides would be going back and forth to work.
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