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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Canada?
    They're an ally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    They're an ally?
    I'm trying to figure out if your being sarcastic or not...
    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Canada?
    Canada? what is this Canada you speak of?



    or are you referring to North Montana??;):D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    I know it is easy to understand (well ... in the context of human "civilization").

    Makes me wonder who we are allied with now that our kids will have to fight.
    Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Pakistan.
    Not Pakistan in it's current state, but if the government falls, then I would whole heartedly expect that we just roll right from Afghanistan into Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Not Pakistan in it's current state, but if the government falls, then I would whole heartedly expect that we just roll right from Afghanistan into Pakistan.
    Uh uh. Too many of them for a ground war. If the government falls and the Islamists take power (or at least, do so more overtly than they have), then we will have to arm India and then hope that our tech support survives the initial exchange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Uh uh. Too many of them for a ground war. If the government falls and the Islamists take power (or at least, do so more overtly than they have), then we will have to arm India and then hope that our tech support survives the initial exchange.
    We'd have to have troops on the ground. Afghanistan taught us that. We were able to topple their government easily enough, but they aren't just gonna lay there guns down when that happens.

    India will have no choice but to jump in with it, but we would have to have boots on the ground as well. I would entirely expect India to just ensure it's border is secure, maybe "capture" a few of the disputed regions, but nothing more then that.
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    Problem is, with Pakistan getting closer to China, we'd have to worry about them jumping in, if they do....:eek::eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    We'd have to have troops on the ground. Afghanistan taught us that. We were able to topple their government easily enough, but they aren't just gonna lay there guns down when that happens.

    India will have no choice but to jump in with it, but we would have to have boots on the ground as well. I would entirely expect India to just ensure it's border is secure, maybe "capture" a few of the disputed regions, but nothing more then that.
    Not necessarily. India and Pakistan have a mutual enmity that goes back to the first Muslim conquests of India, over 1100 years ago. The Muslims slaughtered the male Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists, enslaved the females and children and forced them to convert to Islam and destroyed as much of the culture as possible. The only reason for Pakistan to exist was that Muslims refused to live in a Hindu-majority democracy. They lacked the numbers to rule and the power to regain control, so they rioted and destroyed everything within their reach until India agreed to partition. A US/Pakistani conflict would draw enthusiastic Indian support and participation.
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    Problem is, with Pakistan getting closer to China, we'd have to worry about them jumping in, if they do....:eek::eek:
    Only if they can do so without compromising their own security. Chinese intervention would be covert, consisting of weapons, financial aid and the like, but it's unlikely that China would directly intervene unless they thought that the war was going to expand into their territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Not necessarily. India and Pakistan have a mutual enmity that goes back to the first Muslim conquests of India, over 1100 years ago. The Muslims slaughtered the male Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists, enslaved the females and children and forced them to convert to Islam and destroyed as much of the culture as possible. The only reason for Pakistan to exist was that Muslims refused to live in a Hindu-majority democracy. They lacked the numbers to rule and the power to regain control, so they rioted and destroyed everything within their reach until India agreed to partition. A US/Pakistani conflict would draw enthusiastic Indian support and participation.


    Only if they can do so without compromising their own security. Chinese intervention would be covert, consisting of weapons, financial aid and the like, but it's unlikely that China would directly intervene unless they thought that the war was going to expand into their territory.
    yeah, but in a War with Pakistan, it could easily happen, particularly if Pakistan decides to go Nuclear, though Chinese are much more pragmatic than even we are.

    Shit happens in war, if the new Chinese naval base got bombed somehow....that could get ugly quickly
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