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06-18-2011, 10:33 AM
Well you know my thoughts on this.
Muslims should be excluded from military service,
deported, put into camps like Gitmo, or just exterminated altogether.
Their goal is to infiltrate from within and we are letting them.
Anyone regardless of religion that is serving in our military and attempts to commit
an act of terrorism against this country is guilty of treason and should be executed.
It's not like you can rehabilitate someone like this guy.
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06-18-2011, 10:39 AM
Melaku, a naturalized U.S. citizen, joined the Marine Corps Reserve on Sept. 4, 2007, but military officials say he never deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan.
He is currently listed as a motor vehicle operator with Combat Engineer Support Company, 4th Combat Engineer Battalion, 4th Marine Division, according to the FBI. ......
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/17...#ixzz1PdOhl800
Would this be unusual?While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
Dying to believe in what you heard
I was staring straight into the shining sun
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06-18-2011, 10:42 AM
While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
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06-18-2011, 11:26 AM
Semper Fry him.
Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
C. S. Lewis
Do not ever say that the desire to "do good" by force is a good motive. Neither power-lust nor stupidity are good motives. (Are you listening Barry)?:mad:
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06-18-2011, 12:49 PM
Not really. Reserves adhere to a different rotational schedule than the active duty folks. His unit could have just gotten back from deployment prior to his coming aboard.
IRRC Reserves and NG are on an every four year deployment schedule.
If I'd stayed with my NG unit instead of coming back Active in '03 I wouldn't have deployed to Iraq until 2006.
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06-18-2011, 12:53 PM
While you were hanging yourself , on someone else's words
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06-18-2011, 01:01 PM
Yes and no.
Manning was a PFC...and all PFC's bitch and moan and gripe about being put on third shift. So I can kinda see how he was able to get away with what he did without raising flags.
Hassan on the other point should have set off red warning lights and sirens left and right. But because of the EO climate in the Army...people that should have said something didn't for fear of a discrimination complaint putting a premature halt to to their careers.
This story IMHO reminds me of Hassan Akbar...right down to the fact that both were in Engineer units. Only difference is that Akbar's superiors were aware of his behavior and had taken steps to prevent him from going to Iraq from Kuwait with them.
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06-18-2011, 11:27 PM
If we are going to exclude all Muslims, then we are buying into the imams' line that no Muslim can be loyal to the United States. However, some Muslims do want to live under secular western law, and don't want to be part of the global jihad. I've met a few of them in the army (funny thing is, all were female), and the fact is, we need them, because they know and understand our enemy. What we need to do is treat them the way that we treated German-Americans, Italian-Americans and Japanese-Americans who joined up during WWII, as persons who have a higher risk of compromise, and need to be vetted more carefully than the average troop. The biggest failure with Hasan was not just that the army had all of the warning signs and deliberately ignored them, allowing him to continue to work, hold a clearance and have access to areas where he was able to go off, but that they failed to act because of a politically correct agenda that now guarantees that Muslims who are loyal to the US will be objects of unofficial suspicion, because they weren't officially vetted. By ignoring Hasan's radicalism, they made all Muslims in the army suspect, without actually doing anything about the ones who are a genuine risk.
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