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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    How does anyone pretend that the ocean level can be accurately measured?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    Funny.

    A "Measuring stick" on a gigantic body of water that has tides, currents, surf, etc. I don't see how it is possible. If you take one fish from the pool, doesn't the level go down? What about when it rains? Do you measure it at low tide and high tide. I think this is scientific crap.;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    Oh, God! Not the dowsing guy! I think we can discount his opinions on water outright.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils-Ax...ews_on_dowsing
    I'm pretty sure that my last surgeon believes that Mohammed was the prophet of God, and the one before that believes that Jesus Christ walked on water and magically healed the blind. Both of them were really good surgeons.

    Given that I have no reason to give any weight to your opinion or the scheming of the government of the Maldives, then unless you can actually prove that the ocean levels are rising significantly and in a straight line, then I will stick to those who say it isn't happening.

    The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world".


    Or look for different sources:


    Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels
    Study claimed in 2009 that sea levels would rise by up to 82cm by the end of century – but the report's author now says true estimate is still unknown


    Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.



    Note, any time a variation of 100% or more is "predicted" your BULLSHIT! alarm should go off:

    Martin Vermeer of the Helsinki University of Technology, Finland and Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany published a study in December that projected a rise of 0.75m to 1.9m by 2100.


    In a statement the authors of the paper said: "Since publication of our paper we have become aware of two mistakes which impact the detailed estimation of future sea level rise. This means that we can no longer draw firm conclusions regarding 21st century sea level rise from this study without further work.

    Translation: We're full of shit, and just wanted to get a free trip to the UN and the lecture circuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I'm pretty sure that my last surgeon believes that Mohammed was the prophet of God, and the one before that believes that Jesus Christ walked on water and magically healed the blind. Both of them were really good surgeons.
    Dowsing is not analogous to believing in a god. The claim that dowsing can be used to find water is demonstrably false and so anyone who claims it works is either insane or dishonest. It's like claiming that, for example, homeopathy works. I wouldn't discount the opinion of a doctor who claims a god exists but I would discount the opinion of a doctor who claims homeopathy works... and I hope you would too.

    Given that I have no reason to give any weight to your opinion or the scheming of the government of the Maldives, then unless you can actually prove that the ocean levels are rising significantly and in a straight line, then I will stick to those who say it isn't happening.
    I have never asked you or anyone else here to give weight to my opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    How does anyone pretend that the ocean level can be accurately measured?
    The same charlatans that believe in AGW and their mind numbed idiot followers are those people.
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    I live over 600 ft above sea level and find seashells in the soil of my backyard all the time. From this I can only conclude that sea levels have actually fallen quite a bit over many thousands of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tecate View Post
    I live over 600 ft above sea level and find seashells in the soil of my backyard all the time. From this I can only conclude that sea levels have actually fallen quite a bit over many thousands of years.
    Texas was a sea during the Jurassic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    Texas was a sea during the Jurassic.
    I know. I'm simply poking fun at all this nonsense and hysteria as if the planet is going to die because a grasshopper farted. This planet has been through massive changes without any intervention from man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    Dowsing is not analogous to believing in a god. The claim that dowsing can be used to find water is demonstrably false and so anyone who claims it works is either insane or dishonest. It's like claiming that, for example, homeopathy works. I wouldn't discount the opinion of a doctor who claims a god exists but I would discount the opinion of a doctor who claims homeopathy works... and I hope you would too.
    tell that the Millions of Doctors that use it, quite effectively to treat various aliments around the globe, you don't really understand what it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by fettpett View Post
    tell that the Millions of Doctors that use it, quite effectively to treat various aliments around the globe, you don't really understand what it is
    As of this year:

    There's scant evidence that homeopathy provides anything beyond a placebo effect (even critics agree the treatments are safe and don't cause allergic reactions). Many homeopathy studies are small, of poor quality and funded by homeopathic manufacturers.
    http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-...,1914162.story
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