Ron Paul Wins Texas GOP Active Voters Poll, beating Rick Perry

**OrthodoxPresbyterian** · 07-09-2011, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by MountainMan

He should have endorsed McCain and helped him get elected but no, he is a self aggrandizing fool. Hopefully this nut-burger will go away after he gets the boot in the primaries but I doubt it.

By working against your party candidate, he defaults to helping the opposition. There is no getting around that no matter what your spin.

I don't believe that encouraging Leftists to vote for Nader is necessarily "working against the Republican candidate".

The fact is, encouraging Leftists to vote for Nader helped to lose Al Gore the Election in 2000. If you don't realize that encouraging Leftists to SPLIT THEIR VOTES does, in fact, help the Republican, I'd advise you to look over Nader's Vote Totals -- versus Gore's margin of defeat -- in the battleground States for the 2000 Election, one more time.

**Molon Labe** · 07-09-2011, 02:44 PM

Shoot...I voted third party last go around. Wasn't anyway I was going to vote for McCain or Obama. I'm supremely confident i'll probably be doing that again if they give me a Palin or Romney. Using that logic, I helped elect Obama.

bullshit

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." -- John Quincy Adams

**OrthodoxPresbyterian** · 07-09-2011, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Molon Labe

Shoot...I voted third party last go around. Wasn't anyway I was going to vote for McCain or Obama. I'm supremely confident i'll probably be doing that again if they give me a Palin or Romney. Using that logic, I helped elect Obama.

bullshit

I agree with you; I don't view any Nominee of any Party as "owning" my Vote, they need to earn it.

I'm just pointing out that, if Paul's "endorsements" (which were basically nothing more than a declaration of dis-satisfaction with the Major Party candidates) of Nader and McKinney "hurt" anyone's totals in the General Election -- it hurt Obama, not McCain. It's not like McCain was going to get a lot of these Leftists' votes, anyway.

**txradioguy** · 07-09-2011, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Then why would one of the other Republicans, who uniformly poll LOWER than Paul does against Obama, be more likely to beat Obama?

If Paul polls so well how come he can never get the nomination?

The Ronulans and their "we're kicking ass in the polls" crap they trot out every four years reminds me of this:

You cultists just keep telling yourselves that this year will be your year.

Meanwhile those of us living in reality will try and pick the best candidate with the most realistic chance of getting this Socialist we have now out of office.

**txradioguy** · 07-09-2011, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by OrthodoxPresbyterian

I agree with you; I don't view any Nominee of any Party as "owning" my Vote, they need to earn it.

Oh horse shit. You're a lemming for Ron Paul blindly following him over the cliff of insanity every four years.

He's got your vote without even announcing he's running.

**Rockntractor** · 07-09-2011, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Pity you haven't your Swarm to call upon, over here. Nor moderators willing to shut down discussions for you, when you're losing. (Badly).

Yeah, I think I'm gonna like it here.

Careful Presby, I'm a loose cannon that can go off at any time!

**txradioguy** · 07-09-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by MountainMan

The one thing people need to remember about Ron Paul is he absolutely did nothing in 2008 to help defeat Obama. He endorsed Cynthia McKinney and Ralph Nader and by doing so, actually helped Obama get elected.

The Paulistinians never want to talk about that.

LOL!

**OrthodoxPresbyterian** · 07-09-2011, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by txradioguy

If Paul polls so well how come he can never get the nomination?

He's run for the Republican Nomination for President exactly once before.

In case you hadn't noticed, the Media's putative "front-runner", Romney, is himself a 2008 re-tread.
As was McCain a re-tread in 2008, for that matter.

In other words, your criticism means exactly nothing.

Meanwhile those of us living in reality will try and pick the best candidate with the most realistic chance of getting this Socialist we have now out of office.

No, that's not your objective. Because if so, you'd be supporting Ron Paul -- CNN Poll: Ron Paul Stands Best Chance Against Obama. The fact is, you don't care that Ron Paul has the best shot against Obama; you are perfectly willing to accept four more years of Socialism, than support the Republican "with the most realistic chance of getting this Socialist we have now out of office". So much for your purported opposition to Obama.