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    we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts
    I want no socialism, little, big or bigger, none, nano, zero, zilch!
    How is obama working out for you?
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    i think by county healthcare would be the best way to work it out... if they did do this
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    i think by county healthcare would be the best way to work it out... if they did do this
    I don't want it in a town, in a state would make me frown.
    I don't want it in my county, in my village or my township, in my sector or my hectare. I do not want your health care son you can have it just for one!
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    haha i think it could work as long as the feds dont get involved.... but we can do just as good without it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts
    Still wouldnt work.

    Hawaii tried this and then had to repeal it after only 7 months.

    Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.

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    Tax credits should be ELIMINATED for employer paid health care and instead tax credits given for employer paid "vouchers" than can be used by the individual to purchase their own health care plan. Make insurance portable and allow people to keep the money they save.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmovies View Post
    Still wouldnt work.

    Hawaii tried this and then had to repeal it after only 7 months.

    Hawaii Ending Universal Child Health Care After 7 Mos.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html
    Not working in MA either and has caused huge budget problems. At the time Romney-care was passed 93% had health care. Therefore, only 7% were not covered. A one size fits all screwed it up royally for the 93% by increasing costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnkbortka View Post
    we all know that a federal health care system would not work, because of the different situations of different states and the cost to the federal government, but what if it was managed by states or even counties? any thoughts
    A federal healthcare system, despite the endless lies from the right, is not even proposed. National Single Payer is not a national health service, it's a non-profit universal system for the payments for healthcare, fpaid through taxes where we now pay premiums to private insurers and at the same time pay taxes towards Medicare, Medicaid, government operated hospitals etc...

    As for whether it could operate at the state level, it wouldn't make sense because our political divisions are such that many metropolitan areas span two or more states, and states would undoubtedly try to make it more expensive to the patient to cross state lines for treatment.

    However, single payer in Canada did start in one province.
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    A federal healthcare system, despite the endless lies from the right, is not even proposed.
    Yes it is. Its being proposed all over the place.

    National Single Payer is not a national health service
    Its a big part of it:

    Single-payer health care is the financing of health care from a single insurance pool, which in all existing and proposed cases are government run. Under a single-payer system, universal health care for an entire population is financed from a pool to which many parties--employees, employers, the state--have contributed. Single-payer is a market in which one buyer faces many sellers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care

    Its a system thats more than halfway on the road towards a national health care service. And if it has to be legislated into existence by the government and if government is partly (or fully) paying for it, then that alone should set off the warning bells of alarm.

    The Myths of Single-Payer Health Care

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