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    NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

    Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.


    "The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

    In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

    The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

    Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.
    http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html

    Well buggers.... all that CO2 isn't trapping the heat causing massive global wide changes in climate. But it is still providing good fodder for agricultural plants. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by djones520 View Post
    http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html

    Well buggers.... all that CO2 isn't trapping the heat causing massive global wide changes in climate. But it is still providing good fodder for agricultural plants. :D
    What the article states is that the amount of energy being trapped is less than what is predicted by the models, not that it isn't being trapped. Anyway, it's encourging to see the deniersphere moving away from arguing about whether global warming is occurring and toward arguing about how much global warming is occurring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    What the article states is that the amount of energy being trapped is less than what is predicted by the models, not that it isn't being trapped. Anyway, it's encourging to see the deniersphere moving away from arguing about whether global warming is occurring and toward arguing about how much global warming is occurring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    What the article states is that the amount of energy being trapped is less than what is predicted by the models, not that it isn't being trapped. Anyway, it's encourging to see the deniersphere moving away from arguing about whether global warming is occurring and toward arguing about how much global warming is occurring.

    The argument has ALWAYS been whether or not it was anthropogenic.


    In the last few years, warming may not have taken place, but no one denies that since the mid - late 1970's average temps have increased. However, if you wish to compare that to the mid 1930's, we seem to have a lack of warming also. You see, things are Cyclical and that is what we have ALWAYS said. We have questioned how MUCH of the increase was due to measurement error (like stations that were positioned near heat sources etc), and how much was due to cherry picking time frames, but ALWAYS with the knowledge that the one thing constant about our climate is change.

    It is YOUR side that has tried to deny those facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    The argument has ALWAYS been whether or not it was anthropogenic.

    In the last few years, warming may not have taken place, but no one denies that since the mid - late 1970's average temps have increased.
    That's not true. As of 2010, 20% of Americans don't believe global warming, natural or anthropogenic, is even happening. And 23% don't know. These are large percentages and I can assure you they're not on my side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    The argument has ALWAYS been whether or not it was anthropogenic.

    It is YOUR side that has tried to deny those facts.
    And expect the Climate Hoax folks to start moving the goal posts and back tracking now that the unmanipulated data isn't backing them up...similar to what the Foul Owl is doing already.
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    What the article states is that the amount of energy being trapped is less than what is predicted by the models, not that it isn't being trapped. Anyway, it's encourging to see the deniersphere moving away from arguing about whether global warming is occurring and toward arguing about how much global warming is occurring.
    What the article states is that yet more proof is coming forward that AGW is a hoax and a lie.
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    Got to say with all the stuff blowing holes in Gore's Warming Hoax.

    I wonder how his "Climate Reality Summit" will go over in a month and a half?

    “24 Hours of Reality will focus the world’s attention on the full truth, scope, scale and impact of the climate crisis. To remove the doubt. Reveal the deniers. And catalyze urgency around an issue that affects every one of us.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    What the article states is that the amount of energy being trapped is less than what is predicted by the models, not that it isn't being trapped. Anyway, it's encourging to see the deniersphere moving away from arguing about whether global warming is occurring and toward arguing about how much global warming is occurring.
    Please explain how the global ice fields melted without the horrible assault of the evil Conservative SUV plan? Here's my thoughts:

    * Your ugly Prius is not making a difference in global temperatures- Neither is my gas guzzling Pick-up.
    * Man has done nothing significant to increase the temps or the rate of temperature climb, God's fireworks (called volcanoes) have had a far greater effect.
    * China, Brazil, and India have far exceeded the US pollution yet the temps and rate of climb are unaffected, why?

    I don't dispute that global warming is happening, it has been going on since 30,000 BP (Before Prius). When are the Global warming radicals (those who enthusiastically embraced the hoax) going to introduce these FACTS into their models???
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmPat View Post
    * China, Brazil, and India have far exceeded the US pollution yet the temps and rate of climb are unaffected, why?
    The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.


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