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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    What have been the significant changes from Bush's administration to Obama's?

    That's the key. Significant. There have been none. oh there are differences...like how he spends the money etc. but it's still business as usual in ol DC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    That's the key. Significant. There have been none. oh there are differences...like how he spends the money etc. but it's still business as usual in ol DC.
    I stand corrected...Wee Wee/Wilbur type Communists and Birch Society 100%'ers from the right.





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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    I stand corrected...Wee Wee/Wilbur type Communists and Birch Society 100%'ers from the right.





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    Are you able to reply to my post? What are the significant differences?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    What have been the significant changes from Bush's administration to Obama's?

    The wars have continued, torture continues, no one is prosecuted for torture, there's secret illegal underground CIA prisons
    And Santa Claus continues to deliver toys. Any other fantasies that you'd like to share?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    the tax cuts have been extended, the patriot act has been extended, more people have been deported under Obama, Unions have been thrown under the bus, we are now engaged in military hostilities in 2 new countries (Pakistan with drones, Libya through NATO), the health care bill is NOT a progressive bill in fact it uses ideas proposed previously by Republicans, he's willing to put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block without tax increases.
    The tax cuts were extended over his strenuous objects.
    The Patriot Act has never been the horrific bugaboo that you pretend that it is. Had it been, this post would not have been written. None of your freedoms has been curtailed.
    The military hostilities in Pakistan and Libya differ from Afghanistan and Iraq in that Obama did not seek any congressional approval, and even attempted to claim that he was not engaging in wars, so much as "kinetic actions", a meaningless euphemism that clearly demonstrates the major difference between Bush and Obama, which is that Obama doesn't believe that he has to work with anyone, or get anyone's permission to do whatever he feels like.
    Obamacare is a collection of deliberate expansions of federal power that destroys the rights of individuals. That's as progressive as it gets.

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    Where exactly is this far-left President? I don't see it. He uses rhetoric about hope and change of course, but his actions have shown him to be nothing more than Bush with a human face, someone that thoughtless MSNBC liberals can get behind.
    Which is all progressivism, socialism or communism have ever been. Nobody at the top ever expected any of that drivel to work. Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the rest just saw it as a means of suckering people so that they could gain power. Obama is either a true believer in the socialist fantasy, or he's another hack who is using it to gain power, but either way, he's a classic progressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    There is big hypocrisy from democrats who ranted and raved about Bush and what he was doing, but seem to support Obama doing all of the same stuff because he's the cool smooth charismatic Democrat that plays B-ball.

    I don't buy it.
    As I recall, you bought it by the truckload and wanted more when he was riding high. It's only now that his approval numbers are in the toilet and his administration is looking about as durable and stable as a Hollywood marriage that you and the rest of the proglodytes have turned on him. You need to distance yourselves from him, just as you distanced yourselves from every other progressive failure in history, but it won't work. Obama is yours. You demanded hope and change, and you got it. Beware of what you wish for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    And Santa Claus continues to deliver toys. Any other fantasies that you'd like to share?
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    The tax cuts were extended over his strenuous objects.
    The Patriot Act has never been the horrific bugaboo that you pretend that it is. Had it been, this post would not have been written. None of your freedoms has been curtailed.
    The military hostilities in Pakistan and Libya differ from Afghanistan and Iraq in that Obama did not seek any congressional approval, and even attempted to claim that he was not engaging in wars, so much as "kinetic actions", a meaningless euphemism that clearly demonstrates the major difference between Bush and Obama, which is that Obama doesn't believe that he has to work with anyone, or get anyone's permission to do whatever he feels like.
    Obamacare is a collection of deliberate expansions of federal power that destroys the rights of individuals. That's as progressive as it gets.
    You're missing the point. The Tax Cuts were Bush's and the Republicans, Obama extended them. The wars were started under Bush and the Republicans, Obama has extended them. The health care bill is a series of proposals which initially came from Republicans.

    If you want to call that progressive then call it progressive, if you want to call it boogymanism, then call it boogymanism, whatever you want to call it, it's not much different from Bush.




    Which is all progressivism, socialism or communism have ever been. Nobody at the top ever expected any of that drivel to work. Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the rest just saw it as a means of suckering people so that they could gain power. Obama is either a true believer in the socialist fantasy, or he's another hack who is using it to gain power, but either way, he's a classic progressive.
    I'm starting to think you use "progressive, liberal, socialist" as interchangeable words used to describe anything and everything that is bad.



    As I recall, you bought it by the truckload and wanted more when he was riding high. It's only now that his approval numbers are in the toilet and his administration is looking about as durable and stable as a Hollywood marriage that you and the rest of the proglodytes have turned on him. You need to distance yourselves from him, just as you distanced yourselves from every other progressive failure in history, but it won't work. Obama is yours. You demanded hope and change, and you got it. Beware of what you wish for.
    I was already extremely critical of Obama by late 2009, around the time I started posting here.

    I did support Obama's election campaign, and I was able to learn. Some people can learn and change their ideas with time, you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by txradioguy View Post
    I stand corrected...Wee Wee/Wilbur type Communists and Birch Society 100%'ers from the right.



    You two are more alike than you realize.

    oh...so you do understand the concept of how seemingly different things can be alike?.


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    yeah, because THATS a reliable newsource, along with Alex Jone's craptastic infowars.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    What have been the significant changes from Bush's administration to Obama's?
    An extra trillion dllars worth of deficit spending leaps to mind.
    Olde-style, states' rights conservative. Ask if this concept confuses you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Wood View Post
    An extra trillion dllars worth of deficit spending leaps to mind.
    Forcing an unconstitutional healthcare mandate upon the American people is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    What have been the significant changes from Bush's administration to Obama's?
    More than you would admit to if given an honest chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    The wars have continued
    Just the opposite of what your dear leader promised. However you are dishonest by stating that they have continued. They have expanded. Only this expansion didn't come with congressional authority, equivalent to Declaration. They didn't even come with a vote. The order to expand into Libya came from one arrogant, and ignorant man. Imbued with more power than he can handle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    , torture continues, no one is prosecuted for torture,
    I like how you call for prosecution and cessation when water boarding led directly to Bin Laden's death. I also think it's cute how you speak of torture when you've led a defended and secluded life, and think every splinter an unbearable amount of pain. I'd like for you to describe to me, what kind of threshold amounts to torture, while keeping in mind I've served in the USMC for 8 years. Also, what kind of return in terms of information would justify the limited amounts of discomfort our Enemy Prisoners of War (EPW's) experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    there's secret illegal underground CIA prisons,
    Way to go looking like a Jolly Green dumb ass in the middle of a reasonably humerus rant! If the CIA has secret, illegal, and underground prisons, how the living fuck would your unconnected, insignificant, psychotic ass know about them, and wouldn't you be put away for revealing them to us?

    No explicative required. You are dumb. Are they coming to take you away yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    the tax cuts have been extended,
    No shit they have. Because Obama did, as every single economist who's come into contact with his administration has told him. The only smart decision he's ever made. It's kind of ironic that the only smart decision he ever had to make was to not ignore people who were easily smarter than him, from both CATO and the FED. All he had to do was listen to a bipartisan, Keynesian and Austrian panel, and not make a peep. The only good this idiot has ever dUone is to shut up and listen to anybody but himself. Isn't that ironic for "teh smarist prisident evahr?"



    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    the patriot act has been extended,
    That couldn't possibly be due to the fact that Libertarians can come up with a specific list of grievances, and present them, and the overwhelming magnitude of warm, uneducated bodies that call themselves "progressives", or "socialists, or "Democrats" can only screech in the most annoying tone ever that, "thay tuk our raaaahhhhts!"


    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    more people have been deported under Obama,
    You are a bald faced liar. Obama stopped deporting when Arizona passed the law that made Obama look more like an ineffectual chump on border security than he actually was. Repatriation flights have stopped. I know, two of my friends lost their jobs because they rode security "shotgun" on those flights. Not to mention your dear leader's end run around congress that he's recently undertaken, so that he can insure illegals a piece of the welfare pie in exchange for votes. Nice try. Too bad you aren't ashamed of integrity violations, so long as it furthers the commune.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Unions have been thrown under the bus,
    Bullshit, you just bald faced lied once again. Obama has done, and will continue to do everything he can to protect those precious Union dollars. It's his justice department that failed to extract one single conviction, much less the beginnings of an investigation from multiple, video supported, voter and petition intimidation infractions which occurred in Wisconsin....among chants of "This is what democracy looks like!" of all things, while union thugs prevented legal voting and trashed voting equipment. Obama has not thrown unions under a bus. The majority of American citizens have told Unions to take a hike while flipping Obama the bird and daring him to do something about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    we are now engaged in military hostilities in 2 new countries (Pakistan with drones, Libya th helprough NATO),
    Yup, without Congressional oversight and authorization, which is something Bush asked for, and received, twice. I guess Obama is just the great "decider", and doesn't need to go the People's House for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    the health care bill is NOT a progressive bill in fact it uses ideas proposed previously by Republicans, he's willing to put Social Security and Medicare on the chopping block without tax increases.
    Oh, yeah, Obamacare can't possibly be "progressive' because it contains ideas that are, god forbid, Republican in origin. Maybe, if you haven't lied before, it might be more believable. Let's face it, this socialization and government takeover didn't' go far enough for you. If Ronald Regan had proposed that Congress seize control of all HSA's, private practices and hospitals, and refer all assets to committee, so that all assets could be carved up and deployed to inner city criminals and South American drug lords, you would have jumped for joy and cheered for glee. I mean, so long as the middle class, hard working, tax paying, people who funded the entire system weren't getting "wealthy" or somehow benefiting from the whole scheme, you'd be happy right? I mean, after all, if there weren't' enough healthy, alive, middle class producers to support the "fat cat", "wall street" wealthy they'd all get poor, which is your goal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Where exactly is this far-left President?
    He's standing about one inch to the right of you, and almost everyone, including you, hates him for it.
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