I'm done with this crap Nova. Take your self righteous bullshit and stick it where the sun don't shine next to your head that's stuck squarely up your ass.
Last edited by Zathras; 09-26-2011 at 04:27 PM.
Just an obvious example: You cite examples of namecalling which have not been seen in the force since before I was a private (two and a half decades ago), and then use that as an excuse to tar us as homophobes, but when you are informed that those comments are not permitted, you don't retract your first statement, but blithely continue to act as though it is still part of the motivation, and then demand to know if it was really necessary for new troops in basic training to be subjected to verbal hazing, and the explanation, while obvious to anyone who ever thought about the issue for more than a second, demonstrated that you have never considered it in any way. Your failure to think about one of the most basic and well-publicized aspects of military culture demonstrates a profound lack of interest in, and understanding of, that culture, and yet you presume to dictate how we should conduct ourselves in areas of which you are completely ignorant.
In this, you are no different from Obama, who has never run so much as a lemonade stand, dictating the management of multi-billion dollar corporations, and like him, you will see your policy demands fail miserably..
Now here is an accusation if you would like one:
Presumably a large portion of those you predict will find gay equality unbearable are under age thirty. Studies show that this age group is the least homophobic (for lack of a better word), presumably because they have been raised by parents who function in society, attend schools with discrimination/harassment policies, and haven't had the social instruction or re-enforcement for male pattern homophobia. They have grown up in the last decade or two when the youth subculture eschews "hatin'" and regards old fashioned fag bashing as idiocy.
So where is the culture of resistance that you speak of coming from? If indeed the majority of these young men (it doesn't seem to apply to women as much) are as uncomfortable with gay people as you say, then how are they getting that way between the end of high school and today? Is this culture taught and promoted in the military? By whom? Is it mere concentrated in the military? By what function?
I was surfing the web a few years back, and came across some graffiti in Brazil. Translated, it said: "Kill nwords, Jews, and queers." I was surprised. My first reaction was, "How come they always put these three together?" Because this is basically the mantra of the KKK in the US. But, in Brazil? Most of us aren't certain where to draw the line between white and black in Brazil, and who knew they even had enough Jews to have a hate group against them? But there it was, the same three in the list.
But some here think that one (that they will admit to anyway) of those is to be expected in the military, but not the other two. I'm curious how they decide where to draw the line.
Last edited by Odysseus; 09-27-2011 at 01:17 PM.
Of course i find this forum more respectful on gay issues.
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