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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    If they are absolutely certain he guilty, he should be in prison for a very long time. He should also be treated humanely in prison. I don't think the state should kill him.
    Is the mental picture of Hell one in which you simply die, or is it one in which you are held captive and tortured for eternity?

    How humane would you expect this man's stay in a Texas prison to be? To keep him alive probably requires complete isolation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Torture is never acceptable. Sometimes it is necessary to kill another human being, but torture degrades their very humanity.

    Punishing people can be done by stripping them of their freedoms, their property, and most of their civil rights. However, kiilling people should be done only when necessary (like police shooting an armed gunman, or soldiers killing enemy combatants in a warzone). It is never necessary to kill a man in a cage, that is about revenge, and it's sick.

    As for torture, that's even worse, torture violates humanity itself, torture is obscene. Torture is always wrong. Period.
    Does incinerating 3,000 people after crashing a 747 into their space count as torture? Remember that next time you defend the peaceful islamist tewowists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post

    As for torture, that's even worse, torture violates humanity itself, torture is obscene. Torture is always wrong. Period.

    I agree!!! those abortion methods are barbaric!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    If they are absolutely certain he guilty, he should be in prison for a very long time. He should also be treated humanely in prison. I don't think the state should kill him.
    If you saw the autopsy pictures you would think differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    Torture is never acceptable. Sometimes it is necessary to kill another human being, but torture degrades their very humanity.

    Punishing people can be done by stripping them of their freedoms, their property, and most of their civil rights. However, kiilling people should be done only when necessary (like police shooting an armed gunman, or soldiers killing enemy combatants in a warzone). It is never necessary to kill a man in a cage, that is about revenge, and it's sick.

    As for torture, that's even worse, torture violates humanity itself, torture is obscene. Torture is always wrong. Period.
    Prison is a fucking vacation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    If you saw the autopsy pictures you would think differently.
    I don't agree with state-sanctioned killing or state-sanctioned torture, at all.

    There are times when killing is necessary, but not when a person is already in a cage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    I don't agree with state-sanctioned killing or state-sanctioned torture, at all.

    There are times when killing is necessary, but not when a person is already in a cage.

    That cage offeres 3 healthy meals per day, tv, internet, and play time outside....all free...and paid for by us taxpayers.

    If Prisons were indeed what prisons are SUPPOSED to be...then maybe. Prisons should be like the turkish prisons featured on the movie Midnight Express...but they are a joke here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Wu Wei View Post
    I don't agree with state-sanctioned killing or state-sanctioned torture, at all.

    There are times when killing is necessary, but not when a person is already in a cage.

    The annoying part is how you make criminals out to be victims. There is an easy way to keep off death row and keep yourself out of prison. Try not acting like an animal and you won't have to endure the hostile prisons of the US. Taxpayers should not be footing the bill of these violent criminals. They should be put to death in a manner that relates to the way they took a life.


    It's sickening how you people come to the aid of violent criminals and pedophiles...but are quick to defend the right to butcher an innocent baby.
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    The punishment for doing crimes is being stripped of your freedoms, being unable to move around, having every moment of your day dictated to you rather than your own choice, being unable to live with your family, all of the simple joys of life, and the very basic component of being in control of yourself are taken away. There's no need to torture people on top of that.

    Making prisons into torture factories is not only sick and immoral, but it causes more problems than it solves. You get people who go into prison for things like theft or drunk driving, and end up turning into sociopaths because they were raped or abused inside. Torturing people just for vengeance is sick, it's wrong.

    The other aspect of prison is to separate potentially dangerous people from the rest of society, which even the nicest swedish prisons do perfectly effectively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkgirl View Post
    The annoying part is how you make criminals out to be victims. There is an easy way to keep off death row and keep yourself out of prison. Try not acting like an animal and you won't have to endure the hostile prisons of the US. Taxpayers should not be footing the bill of these violent criminals. They should be put to death in a manner that relates to the way they took a life.
    This isn't Saudi Arabia. That is sick.


    It's sickening how you people come to the aid of violent criminals and pedophiles...but are quick to defend the right to butcher an innocent baby.
    Who is "you people"?
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