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    Another (Australian) navy sub forced to dry-dock because of crew shortages

    THE Royal Australian Navy is set to move the fourth of its six Collins-class submarines into dry dock because of crew shortages, undermining Kevin Rudd's plans for a massive upgrade in naval resources to counter a military build-up inAsia.

    Defence analysts warned yesterday that severe skills shortages meant the navy could not crew its existing vessels, let alone new assets proposed by the Prime Minister in a major speech to the Returned and Services League on Tuesday night.

    Mr Rudd told the RSL that financial prosperity in the Asian region was fuelling an arms race and that Australia must respond by upgrading its military forces, particularly the RAN, which has just 37 vessels, including six submarines.

    While Mr Rudd mentioned no particular nations, his comments have been widely interpreted as a warning about China's continuing expansion of its navy, particularly its fleet of nuclear submarines.

    As Mr Rudd intensified his language yesterday, saying Australia needed to be a "maritime power" and protect its shipping lanes to maintain trade, defence analyst Allan Behm said the RAN was struggling to retain highly skilled technicians.

    Mr Behm, a consultant to universities and the defence industry, said that with three Collins-class submarines now inoperable because of crew shortages, the navy faced the real prospect of mothballing another within six months.

    "This is now a real problem for the submarines and somebody has to be brought to account," Mr Behm told The Australian.

    "(Chief of Navy) Vice-Admiral Russell Crane has a big task ahead."

    Lowy Institute fellow and Australian National University professor Hugh White accused the Government of failing to demand action from senior Defence officials.

    "Defence and navy has not delivered the capability required of them," Professor White said.

    "Imagine what would happen if this was BHP and half their truck fleet was out of service."

    Replying to questions from The Australian, Defence last night did not deny the allegations and defended its crewing arrangements to protect its submariners from stress.
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    Nah - that 20 knot rust bucket with itís rusty and contaminated welding is at best semi-professional. Best save our best for the best.;)
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    Nah - that 20 knot rust bucket with it’s rusty and contaminated welding is at best semi-professional. Best save our best for the best.
    You mean this?



    The submarine's armament is six forward-facing 533-millimetre (21.0 in) torpedo tubes. The torpedo type in use by the RAN for the Collins class submarine is the Gould Mark 48 Mod 4 torpedo, which is a wire-guided torpedo with active/passive homing and a 267-kilogram (590 lb) warhead. The torpedo's range is purportedly 38 kilometres (21 nmi) at 55 knots (102 km/h) or 50 kilometres (27 nmi) at 40 knots (74 km/h). The Collins class submarine is also capable of using the Boeing Sub-Harpoon anti-ship missile. Total weapons capacity is 22 missiles and torpedoes or 44 mines.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    You mean this?



    The submarine's armament is six forward-facing 533-millimetre (21.0 in) torpedo tubes. The torpedo type in use by the RAN for the Collins class submarine is the Gould Mark 48 Mod 4 torpedo, which is a wire-guided torpedo with active/passive homing and a 267-kilogram (590 lb) warhead. The torpedo's range is purportedly 38 kilometres (21 nmi) at 55 knots (102 km/h) or 50 kilometres (27 nmi) at 40 knots (74 km/h). The Collins class submarine is also capable of using the Boeing Sub-Harpoon anti-ship missile. Total weapons capacity is 22 missiles and torpedoes or 44 mines.


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    Save your typing fingers Sonna the critters was born that way and and there's no hope,Put it on ignore !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    You mean this?



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    REPORT TO THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE ON

    THE COLLINS CLASS SUBMARINE AND

    RELATED MATTERS / June 1999


    http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/1999/collins.html
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    LP...have you ever heard of a calendar? What year is this now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    LP...have you ever heard of a calendar? What year is this now?
    In four minutes you couldn't have read the report. You better do some research.
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    In four minutes you couldn't have read the report. You better do some research.
    Why would I read a report that is nine years old?

    I read the one published a month ago on the Navy website, along with chatting to a Navy submariner who works down the street from me.

    He knows a little more than you do. Whats next, you going to show me a battle readiness report from the Cold War? Or argue design specs of a Spad?

    DO try and keep up....there's a good chap.
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    And the reason you can't find people to man it is...............?
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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